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A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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Night hours are best for shortwave reception. You could also need an external antenna depending on how far you are listening from. Another problem, probably the biggest one today, which affects reception on these frequencies (and generally on the HF bands) is the radio noise generated by many bad designed switching power supplies and appliances. Switching regulators (power supplies, converters, chargers etc.) for eff…

Thanks for the information. The shortwave frequencies still feel very underutilized. When I scan the FM (88 - 108 MHz) and AM (540-1600 kHz) radio frequencies, I pick up a lot of stuff. The shortwave band is relatively vast and feels very sparse. Considering how valuable spectrum is these days, it's hard to believe that we couldn't find a better use for it. Is it because it is so prone to noise that it's less valuabl…

The wavelength at these frequencies is very long, meaning antennas must be very large. In addition, the bandwidth is very small -- you can't exactly encode data on these frequencies for any practical purpose (some digital modes are popular on ham radio bands; e.g. PSK31, RTTY, etc.)

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the information. The shortwave frequencies still feel very underutilized. When I scan the FM (88 - 108 MHz) and AM (540-1600 kHz) radio frequencies, I pick up a lot of stuff. The shortwave band is relatively vast and feels very sparse. Considering how valuable spectrum is these days, it's hard to believe that we couldn't find a better use for it. Is it because it is so prone to noise that it's less valuabl…

The wavelength at these frequencies is very long, meaning antennas must be very large. In addition, the bandwidth is very small -- you can't exactly encode data on these frequencies for any practical purpose (some digital modes are popular on ham radio bands; e.g. PSK31, RTTY, etc.)

Yep, PSK31 has a baud rate of 31.25 - that's literally 31 bits per second. There's no practical use for that in modern commercial or consumer applications.

In amateur bands, symbol rate below 28 MHz is limited to 300 baud.

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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Any speculation that it's as mundane as a test tone for a specific radio device? Is your radio working, is it calibrated properly...

As mentioned in the below comment, the author buried the probable lede: most of the time transmission is a placeholder to discourage others from using the band. During exceptional circumstances (as defined by the station's operator), it will transmit coded messages to global/regional operatives. E.g., to coordinate espionage when conventional communications are offline.

That constant sound is also useful for the spies. Without that it would be hard to know you have tuned on the right frequency (I'd assume they would use some pretty simple and low tech radios).

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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For the lazy who were hoping to find an audio clip in the article: you can find some here: http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/The_Buzzer_(ZhUOZ_MDZhB_UZB76)

The WebSDR at http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901 (based in the Netherlands) can be used to hear the station as it is broadcast. Set to 4625 kHz, USB.

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

#36
> the Buzzer operates at a relatively low frequency known as “shortwave”. This means that – compared to local radio, mobile phone and television signals – fewer waves pass through a single point every second. It also means they can travel a lot further.

Nice explanation.

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wavelength at these frequencies is very long, meaning antennas must be very large. In addition, the bandwidth is very small -- you can't exactly encode data on these frequencies for any practical purpose (some digital modes are popular on ham radio bands; e.g. PSK31, RTTY, etc.)

Yep, PSK31 has a baud rate of 31.25 - that's literally 31 bits per second. There's no practical use for that in modern commercial or consumer applications. In amateur bands, symbol rate below 28 MHz is limited to 300 baud.

And anything in the 2M band is also symbol rate limited(I want to say it was 1200baud but I could be wrong).

It's really frustrating if you want to do any development with digital modes.

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Looked it up, it's a 19.6k symbol rate limit(rather than leave it open and restrict bandwidth). You can carry a ton of data on 2M if you wanted but legally you can't exceed the speed of an old dial up modem.

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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For the lazy who were hoping to find an audio clip in the article: you can find some here: http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/The_Buzzer_(ZhUOZ_MDZhB_UZB76)

The WebSDR at http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901 (based in the Netherlands) can be used to hear the station as it is broadcast. Set to 4625 kHz, USB.

This site is really cool. Thanks for sharing though I'm afraid I'll be wasting quite some time today playing around with it :)

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It looks like the site doesn't get such a large number of people very often and the CPU load is getting too high to hear anything clearly. For clearer audio of the buzzer check here:

http://websdr.printf.cc:8901/

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

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> the Buzzer operates at a relatively low frequency known as “shortwave”. This means that – compared to local radio, mobile phone and television signals – fewer waves pass through a single point every second. It also means they can travel a lot further. Nice explanation.

Is it? If you imagine a fixed point in space, a short wave would mean more waves pass through it every second, not less. Short waves have more energy (they have bounce up and down more quickly) which allows them to travel further.

Re: A ghostly radio station that no one claims to run

#40

> the Buzzer operates at a relatively low frequency known as “shortwave”. This means that – compared to local radio, mobile phone and television signals – fewer waves pass through a single point every second. It also means they can travel a lot further. Nice explanation.

Is it? If you imagine a fixed point in space, a short wave would mean more waves pass through it every second, not less. Short waves have more energy (they have bounce up and down more quickly) which allows them to travel further.

No, it is not. The worst shortwave explanation I ever read. From BBC!
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