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Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by RodericDay »

manigandham wrote: post #245
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's their fault for delivering data they want restricted. I'm under no obligation to make every HTTP request they want me to or execute any untrusted JavaScript. Nor am I obligated to render their HTML as intended. If they want these things then they need every user to enter onto a binding contract agreeing to those terms.

This argument really gets old. Morally you know what you're doing. Most people would be fine blocking the big dozen or so of the most offensive ad networks but this extreme approach (especially when the publisher is trying to offer you choices) just comes off as ridiculous.

Morally, advertisers know what they're doing, too.

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Post by MentallyRetired »

djsumdog wrote: post #253
marksomnian wrote: post #30

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Or D: add the popup asking me to disable my adblocker... to my adblocker. Only works on some sites, but where it does it's effective.

If I'm really interested, I might open the inspector and delete the offending div, but often scroll is still hijacked or I'll delete div after div up the stack only to accidentally delete the content too. It's a pain and it's often easier to use the cached version from a search engine or some archiving service.

After you delete the div, go to the body tag and delete the relevant class, or add style="overflow: auto !important;" to the body tag.

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Post by allemagne »

kuschku wrote: post #238
djsumdog wrote: post #212

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I don't think such a country exists. The influence of American's empire, and its entertainment industry, is pretty vast.

And this is why maybe Trump can have one good effect: By causing other countries to distance itself from the US.

The unfortunate truth is that there are mostly only much more authoritarian countries to fill any leadership void left by the US. As flawed as it is, and as flawed as Trump is, European countries can only step up so much to keep liberal democratic societies as the global ideal.

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Post by tyingq »

freeone3000 wrote: post #292
tyingq wrote: post #163

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Encoded, not encrypted. I can't be violating a copyright with text that can't possibly create brand confusion, etc. The DMCA complaint is patently invalid in this case. A counter notice would almost certainly eventually succeed, it's just a lot of work and potential spend in legal. Encoding it is just removing the ability to use it inappropriately in the first place.

"brand confusion"? You seem to be conflating copyright law with trademark law. If I had a copy of "Steamboat Willie", it wouldn't matter if it was H.264 encoded or md5summed or stored in an AES locker, it's still a copyright violation because I don't have a license for the content.

I'm not, the filer of the DMCA is. How else could just a uri being on a page cause a DMCA takedown of a page? That's what happened...they filed a DMCA because the text "http://whatever" was on a github page. Which sounds a lot like meaning trademark, but saying copyright.

That's why I don't consider this underhanded. As you mention, it's not copyrighted in the first place. Obscuring it is just closing the loophole that's being exploited.

I'm not talking about obscuring long passages of copyrighted text. Just obscuring one plaintext url that's on a page with others.

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Post by Kubuxu »

koolba wrote: post #5
rnhmjoj wrote: post #2

Can't we host EasyList somewhere safer?

International safe zone or something distributed like IPFS?

IPFS dev here. We are quite close to having git being hosted directly on IPFS/IPLD. Things like pushing and cloning work. Example workflow:

    git push ipld::
    
    git pull ipld::$CID
    
    git clone ipld::$CID
Important fact is: the git objects are stored in native git format. Hashes are the same, but are pretended with CID header (content identifier) which tells IPFS how to understand links and content of this object.

We plan to work on remotes in close future. There is one more issue where our measure of DoS protection causes that repos with files bigger than 1MiB+ (or 2MiB, I can't recall) can't be fetched. It will be a bit harder to fix but I know we can do it.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by m-j-fox »

jerf wrote: post #214
jrochkind1 wrote: post #186

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That could be, cite to the law or description of it? I'm interested in learning more. What I see in the law ( https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512 ) is that a "notification of claimed infringement" must include "Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such w…

Part of the challenge here is that "the DMCA" is a number of clauses. People who are "against the DMCA" often turn out to have an incoherent position, at least from a legal standpoint, when it turns out they just disagree with one of the contentious clauses. This would in fact be the most contentious clause, the one about being able to take down tools that enable circumvention, the one that is historically the one th…

> penumbric emanation

Vocabulary much? I'll bet there's a blip on Google Trends today.

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