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Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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I don't get it. Competing with Amazon S3 seems like a very unpromising business idea, blockchain or not.

Exactly.

Plus, getting average people to switch from services like S3 "because blockchain" is even less likely than getting average people to switch from WhatsApp/Telegram/whatever to Signal "because privacy". It's just not going to happen.

Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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post #124

Can anyone tell me how they arrived at the $186m figure? Are they just multiplying the last traded price by total supply, and forgetting about market depth/slippage? I mean, if I sell a plastic cup to someone for 10 cents, and then go produce 100 million of these plastic cups, do I have $10m in plastic cups? Or could it be that I’m unable to find 100 million buyers each willing to pay 10 cents for a cup, even though…

They literally sold 186m worth. As in, Filecoin literally has 186 million in the bank. Its insanity

Wow... I just had to get it confirmed, and I still can’t believe it. Did they raise this without giving up any equity?

Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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I assume that the VC investors actually bought a stake in the company? It's misleading to lump them together with the ICO investors, who are buying nothing more than a vague, non-enforceable promise (see any ICO terms & conditions, you have absolutely no rights or ownership as a coin holder)

Many of the ICOs flat out stated that the tokens you're receiving entitle you to absolutely nothing, and hold no value, but somehow people have convinced themselves that the people behind these ICOs are going to give them something in return out of the goodness of their hearts anyway.

Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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$186M ... that's crazy. And here I've been sitting wondering if anyone would bother investing in my idea for a Bitcoin mining co-op. I want to create a U.S. based mining farm that allows anyone to buy-in and have access to a portion of the hashrate. The idea being that, today, the average Bitcoin user has no way to reasonably voice their opinion through the hashrate because they can't compete with the efficiency of t…

It’s worth noting that, if you enter this space, you’ll be competing with existing miners, some of which are quite large. Some have over 10% network hashrate, which means they’re earning 12.5BTC×$3500/BTC=$43,750 every two hours. That’s half a million dollars per day, or $15m per month, and I assume most of it is being channeled back into optimizing their already fairly optimized ASIC chips. And you’ll be starting from scratch.

Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

#237
post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really wasting in this case. There is at least that.

true, at least it's just storage space instead of spinning thousands of servers at 100% all the time and wasting huge amounts of electricity. At least, assuming that people don't start creating miner farms with huge amounts of space like they do with GPUs at the moment. I don't know how filecoin ties to the storage requirements of the customers though so that might be handled by market forces.

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Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Filecoin is being built on top of IPFS (ipfs.io) which, in principle, could be used as a really robust network for sharing pirated content. However, the IPFS team is aware of this problem, and is building in measures to allow nodes to opt out of storing globally available blacklists of known bad objects (i.e. pirated content or illegal content) In practice, this is definitely a really hard problem to solve, and very…

If you're hosting something such as a movie, and it's blacklisted, couldn't you just add a small amount of noise to the video file to make it unblacklistable?

I guess that depends on how things are being blacklisted.

Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

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post #41
post #12

I listened to this YC podcast[1] twice with Juan Benet. Listening to Juan talk about a lot of historical information and the correlations he drew was fascinating. When he tried to explain the need for Filecoin to Dalton, I just didn't hear it. Dalton kept asking him over and over what the point was and he kept giving non-answers (at least in my opinion which doesn't mean much to be honest). I understand the goal of t…

> When he tried to explain the need for Filecoin to Dalton, I just didn't hear it. Dalton kept asking him over and over what the point was and he kept giving non-answers His favorite response was "...and a whole bunch of other things". On a more serious note, it's very early days for the filecoin and related group of projects that they intend to fund, so the answer to Dalton's question is : "we don't have the answers…

But seriously, what are they going to do with that much money? How many developers do they actually need to scale up and what milestones are they trying to hit?

Re: Filecoin Suspends ICO After Raising $186M in One Hour

#240
post #41
post #12

I listened to this YC podcast[1] twice with Juan Benet. Listening to Juan talk about a lot of historical information and the correlations he drew was fascinating. When he tried to explain the need for Filecoin to Dalton, I just didn't hear it. Dalton kept asking him over and over what the point was and he kept giving non-answers (at least in my opinion which doesn't mean much to be honest). I understand the goal of t…

> When he tried to explain the need for Filecoin to Dalton, I just didn't hear it. Dalton kept asking him over and over what the point was and he kept giving non-answers His favorite response was "...and a whole bunch of other things". On a more serious note, it's very early days for the filecoin and related group of projects that they intend to fund, so the answer to Dalton's question is : "we don't have the answers…

When people say "its early days" I mentally replace it with "I don't know"

https://www.google.com/search?q="its+still+early+days"

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