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Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by JoshTriplett »

mnarayan01 wrote: post #19

Via https://github.com/easylist/easylist/commit/a4d380ad1a3b33a0... by one of the Easylist maintainers: > If it is a Circumvention/Adblock-Warning adhost, it should be removed from Easylist even without the need for a DMCA request. Anyone know why he's saying this? Edit: I guess he's referring to the following via https://easylist.to/2013/05/10/anti-adblock-guide-for-site-a... : > Anti-Adblock should only be challeng…

Some adblocker lists maintain blocks for anti-adblock messages separate from blocks for ads, which allows people to choose which they block.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by dnm »

anilgulecha wrote: post #38
whipoodle wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say it's not an ad server but it sounds like one.

It's a "detect-adblocker" service.

So is their argument that by including their hostname in easylist, you are circumventing copyright controls because they validate copyrighted material usage? The takedown notice didn't seem to be related to the domain name per se, but rather the effects of including it in easylist. IOW in order to view our client's copyrighted material, we are providing access controls and by denying the code access to our server, you are circumventing those access controls.

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Post by zanny »

dhimes wrote: post #10

Is it illegal to claim something under DMCA when it does not in fact represent a DMCA claim?

In the US the "justice" system is predominantly accuse first ask questions later, and because legal council is insanely expensive (by design) in most cases all you have to do is accuse someone of something and it will either bankrupt them trying to defend it or they will pay you off to let them go.

It is incredibly broken and corrupt, but like many things in the US nothing will be done about it because the elites have the money to defend themselves and enjoy the benefit of being able to ruin anyone they want who don't have access to similar financial resources that they wield.

If you can afford the several hundred thousands to millions of dollars a protracted legal battle will take you can often get the costs dumped on the losing party. You just have to spend years getting there with your own money and time.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by bradleyankrom »

xigency wrote: post #54
richardknop wrote: post #4

There has been a growing trend of websites that will ask me to either: a) whitelist their site in my adblocker b) or subscribe to their monthly subscription and keep reading their site with adblocker

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this alternative: disable JavaScript. It's fairly easy in any browser to create a list of websites to ignore JavaScript on.

doing so breaks an increasing number of sites. "so don't visit those sites" is the common response, and is fine as general policy, but sometimes isn't an option.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by richardknop »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #13

Wonder if we could create a git in the blockchain... where DMCA just can't exist/happen since there's no central authority to ask to take stuff down...

Make a quick ICO. You will raise 200 million in 1 hour. /sarcasm

This is half decent idea though actually.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by such_a_casual »

Griffinsauce wrote: post #66
such_a_casual wrote: post #37

[flagged]

If you're using a word that requires explanation that you mean it innocently perhaps it's wise to use a different word.

It only requires explanation here because of the silicon valley culture of liberal oppression rather than individualism and freedom of expression which are the true values of a hacker. I shouldn't even of had to write that shit but people want to get offended by people who arent trying to offend them.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by JoshTriplett »

pfg wrote: post #48
romanovcode wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as code is hosted in U.S. (GitHub) the cat and mouse game will continue. If you host your repo in some other country that does not care about U.S. DMCA then it should be fine.

Other countries have copyright laws too. Most of these laws have some kind of notice-followed-by-takedown protocol, and my understanding is that in many jurisdictions, a DMCA takedown notice qualifies as such a notice. Probably the only major difference would be the amount of effort the infringed party would have to go through to enforce the takedown notice if the infringing party is non-compliant. Disclaimer: IANAL.

Most other countries don't have the concept of "anti-circumvention" laws, though.

Re: Ad blocking is under attack

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Post by SoMisanthrope »

Personally, this could be a real problem, if Ad services decide to pry open the doors on our ability to deny them our screen real estate. I block Ads, primarily due to the fact that I don't want my web surfing history and behaviors captured by some uncontrollable mob a ad-servers. Further, most advertisements are akin to the dreaded tag of old! animated, ugly, and obtrusive.

We are coming to a point in the Internets genesis, where technology should evolve to allow the "information consumer" to directly reward the "information producer"... without the need of an intermediary like Google Adwords, etc. etc.

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