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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

How about a server version of Windows?

That would work, but it's a complete joke that he'd need to go that route to get a 2 week job to finish.

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> And part of me does think that I prefer the majority of the clueless end users to be forced to update. Having to support outdated operating systems and browsers is pretty horrible. And making it harder for botnets to spread is also a pretty good thing. So make it updatable without a system reboot? Why does Windows need to reboot for standard security updates? Hell, most times when Windows says I need to reboot, sim…

> So make it updatable without a system reboot? Even better, solve the problem Apple solved 5 years ago and make reboots seamlessly return to the pre-reboot state (or at least try).

I've been impressed with that actually, works very well.

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I just disable the windows update service under "Services" and re-enable once every two weeks (and run the Windows Update GUI to click "search for updates" or what's it called) to keep everything up-to-date. Has worked without problems for the last year.

They should just copy a linux distro. Mint would be a good one. Have a little icon that tells me when I'm out of date, then I can click it and update at my convenience. I think iphone does this, right? To operate their OS? So it is possible to make this work for "normal" users, whomever they are.

Mint can't auto-upgrade, so I don't think they're a good example...

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> Arch Linux is bare-bones...etc No, it isn't. But I get the general idea.

The commenter's point was that it comes bare-bones. There is very little installed on a stock Arch installation. Unlike a distro like Ubuntu, Mint, etc., which are some of the most common desktop distros and come with a large variety of packages, Arch's install file is shockingly small, and the base packages themselves are very limited.

The default Arch install is about 700Mb. How is that shockingly small? If you do a minimal install on most distro's you'll get something similar. Probably less, as Arch bundles all it's packages together and you can't chose to, for example, not install the dev packages.

I use the OS myself, so I'm not hating on Arch linux but the misinformation spread about Arch is crazy.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

This is a prime use case for a workstation and it's hard for me to believe that Microsoft didn't expose better control over updates. More than a few times, I've come to work, wiggled my mouse and been greeted with a blank desktop. It's soooo frustrating that I need to spend the first 15 minutes of my day launching applications, loading projects, digging up notes, etc... when it was all arranged perfectly just a few h…

Those exact issues finally got me to drop Win10 to run Linux on the desktop for the first time in most of a decade, and to not have Windows running on any of my machines for the first time since... god, 1992 or 1993? Something like that. Even the Win8 crapfest didn't make me abandon Windows. 10's bad.

And that's just my personal entertainment PC. I don't know how people who have to actually do work in that environment don't throw their machine off a balcony, or quit and go somewhere that lets them use a different OS. It's infuriating. I'd go nuts dealing with trying to be productive in Win10 5 days a week.

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Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

Go into Services, stop the Windows update service, then disable it. I did this a year ago and have never had a random reboot.

I've had mixed success with this method. It works for a while but every couple of months I'll find my computer restarted and the service has been mysteriously re-enabled.

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Rebooting your computer daily will do the trick. Either shut it down at the end of the day, or give it a reboot. It will do its thing and leave you alone for the next 24 hours. Before you downvote me, which many of you have done already for some reason, please keep in mind that this advice actually works. It's not my decision to have things work like this. That's on Microsoft. But it does work, and is legitimate advi…

Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

Does this happen if you buy windows machines on something like azure? Granted, I'd start looking into *nix alternatives to that software after the first reboot.. but I understand I live in a different world than a lot of buisiness which are all windows all the time.

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I literally only have windows for games now. The OS is pushing my patience to the point where I'm considering giving up half my steam library and sticking to MacOS / Linux. A couple nights ago my PC woke up in the middle of the night and started an update. I had to get up and force shut it down. I don't think there's anything Microsoft can do to reverse the damage now.

So you don't want it to update while you're using it. And you don't want it to update when you're not using it. When, exactly, is it OK for it to update?

When I, the supposed owner of the computer, tell it to.

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> Faster file sharing: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations includes a feature called SMB Direct, which supports the use of network adapters that have Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) capability. Network adapters that have RDMA can function at full speed with very low latency, while using very little CPU. Interesting to see file copy speeds mentioned. "Drag-and-drop" file copy has a known bottleneck that other methods (…

Why would a filesystem have to know about a network interface's ability do do RDMA? Shouldn't the kernel use it when it makes sense and leave the filesystem to be concerned with files? RDMA can speed up a lot of things besides remote file access.

The goal here appears to be avoiding involving the main CPU, letting the network adapter write directly to arbitrary memory.

Currently, DMA allows network adapters to write to a ring buffer in memory, and the free space remaining is transmitted in TCP packets as the window size. This ring buffer is limited in size, requiring the CPU to copy data to other memory locations.

Will RDMA be giving network adapters the ability to write directly to any memory location, instead of just the ring buffer? Does it include memory-mapped devices - does this technology let you remotely access the memory space mapped to a USB webcam?

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