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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

This is a prime use case for a workstation and it's hard for me to believe that Microsoft didn't expose better control over updates. More than a few times, I've come to work, wiggled my mouse and been greeted with a blank desktop. It's soooo frustrating that I need to spend the first 15 minutes of my day launching applications, loading projects, digging up notes, etc... when it was all arranged perfectly just a few h…

You have summarized the exact reason(s) why I will not use Windows for the foreseeable future even though I do like Windows 10

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Downgrade to the better Win7, or use Linux as host and Win in a VM.

Sounds like you haven't used Win10 for more than a week. Win10 is quite good, but there are a few annoyances.

Honest question... In what ways is 10 markedly better than 8.1? I was auto upgraded when 10 came out but got fed up in short time and rolled back.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Oh yeah. On top of the fresh bloat it also reset lots of registry entries and other hidden features. Not a fan of that.

Very true. When I see things like the contacts app reappear, I know it's time to go through the privacy settings because Microsoft invariably resets many of them.

It's absolutely not the best tool in the world, but this one helps me a lot: https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

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Linux distributions are created and maintained by different organizations, and they differ, not in what they are able to do, but in how they accomplish it. Microsoft is a single organization creating artificial strata within a single product. Both lead to a confusing array of choices, but while the diversity of Linux distributions is an organic outgrowth of Linux's licensing, leading to competition for users and main…

How can it be profitable to do and not lead to innovation? Do you know how corporations work?

When you don't really have competition, the more profitable strategy is to make licensing complicated so that customers end up paying more. Innovation is only more profitable when you have solid competitors.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Sounds like you haven't used Win10 for more than a week. Win10 is quite good, but there are a few annoyances.

Honest question... In what ways is 10 markedly better than 8.1? I was auto upgraded when 10 came out but got fed up in short time and rolled back.

Smaller footprint. Better stability. Nicer drivers (although i'd like to use my own unsigned drivers from time to time).

Granted, Windows 10 needs a HUGE LOT of tweaking to get optimised results (horrible horrible bloatware and privacy shit). You also may need a bunch of tools to get it to your liking. But when it is tweaked to your liking, it runs smooth. An i3 on SSD boots to desktop within 15 seconds.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

Go into Services, stop the Windows update service, then disable it. I did this a year ago and have never had a random reboot.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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I understand and agree that it's bullshit. But for normal end users it works fine. And part of me does think that I prefer the majority of the clueless end users to be forced to update. Having to support outdated operating systems and browsers is pretty horrible. And making it harder for botnets to spread is also a pretty good thing. But yes, there should just be a simple setting. Sadly there isn't so we're left to r…

> And part of me does think that I prefer the majority of the clueless end users to be forced to update. Having to support outdated operating systems and browsers is pretty horrible. And making it harder for botnets to spread is also a pretty good thing. So make it updatable without a system reboot? Why does Windows need to reboot for standard security updates? Hell, most times when Windows says I need to reboot, sim…

> So make it updatable without a system reboot?

Even better, solve the problem Apple solved 5 years ago and make reboots seamlessly return to the pre-reboot state (or at least try).

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Macs don't reboot without you taking an action if you have automatic update installation disabled. You have to click a button to apply the updates after which it will reboot. But it tells you this in the dialog where you agree to apply the updates. Windows just applies them and reboots when you're not actively using the machine.

I wasn't responding to that, I was responding to the part about "OS needs to reboot to install updates" being a part of life - it definitely ain't just a Windows thing. Anyway, I'm glad that Windows restarts for me when I'm sleeping and I wish my Macs would do the same. It's pretty easy to avoid having it restart at the wrong time - you just go into the Settings and tell Windows what your active hours are. They let y…

The problem is that windows will at some point start ignoring your active hours. This seems to happen if you put it to sleep after you're done working, so it's always sleeping/hibernating while outside of the active hours. This understandably pisses people off.

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This happened to me last night. I was so pissed this morning. I got used to making sure I never left things on over a Tuesday night because they do updates, but this caught me on a Thursday. Hopefully this will be the year of the Linux desktop......

There are currently two great options for running Linux and still having a productive desktop experience. One is ChromeOS the other is Win 10 with Linux subsystem and an Ubuntu image. Been using both for a little while now and they are really nice.

Running Linux on Windows 10 won't help you with this problem.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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There are currently two great options for running Linux and still having a productive desktop experience. One is ChromeOS the other is Win 10 with Linux subsystem and an Ubuntu image. Been using both for a little while now and they are really nice.

Running Linux on Windows 10 won't help you with this problem.

Agree. I like the Win linux/Ubuntu, but I also really like VirtualBox. Kinda tough on the battery but it gives me a lot to play with.
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