I'm still running the original Surface Pro, unfortunately the magnetized grid for the pen died about two years ago leaving only touch or touch pad.
Besides that, it's going strong four years later.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees... How is this enforced? If you have a file a lawsuit, the costs/time/effort might not be worth it.
The ACCC handles complaints on behalf of consumers, and is more than happy to fine or litigate [1]. Most companies comply well before this stage. 1: https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-takes-action-agai...
Same in many European countries, there's a consumer ombudsman who can have a stern conversation with the dealer if they think the law is on your side.
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#13My SP3 was bent by the dock until the screen broke
Left one day with it docked, came back to a broken screen
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#14Also, support is limited to the country that you purchased the device in - see comment by `nailer from 79 days ago HN [0].
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#15My company has well over 1000 "surface" devices (Pro's, Books, Screens) and they do ok.... They are not even slightly repairable.. so warranty is just a straight swap out. I have had a Surface-book ($3k i7 Performance base model) for the last month or so... the only complaint I have is that that the bluetooth in it is pathetic. A set of headphones and a mouse connected and I get disconnections and drop outs and slow…
There are troubles with WLAN and paralle used USB though.
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#16I'm a long time Microsoft user, sure I dabbled with Linux in my youth, but I never quite got into the tinkering culture and having to spend a day per month in configuring to make things work the way I wanted just wasn't me. Professionaly I'm now in management but the majority of my development experience had been with .Net. Sure I dabbled with all the open source hyped techs when I was younger, but ultimately settled…
"These days windows just feels wrong though. It's probably just me but I feel like my windows machines are basically iPads with keyboards that I can't really do anything with the way I want to.
Git sucks on windows, paints replacement sucks, almost anything that isn't .Net development sucks and Visual Studio has to live in a cage or it takes over everything from wanting to debug your steam library to howling at the moon."
You are being far too polite :) It is not you: Windows is fine as a launcher for consumer applications, but for setup of development tools, it is appallingly terrible, and outside .NET the user experience with developer tools can be pretty rough. For many things, it is now a third-class platform (Mac is first, then Linux).
I definitely agree with Git, specifically. This isn't Microsoft's fault: Git is so UNIX-y that you have to wrap it in a kind of miny-UNIX distribution to run it on a non-UNIX platform, but they are the only desktop vendor with a non-UNIX platform.
I am looking forward to having an opportunity to work with WSL, to see how much that helps.
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#17I'm a long time Microsoft user, sure I dabbled with Linux in my youth, but I never quite got into the tinkering culture and having to spend a day per month in configuring to make things work the way I wanted just wasn't me. Professionaly I'm now in management but the majority of my development experience had been with .Net. Sure I dabbled with all the open source hyped techs when I was younger, but ultimately settled…
> but I never quite got into the tinkering culture
off topic (bikeshedding?) comment: you don't need to tinker with linux: install ubuntu, use it, profit. At work we went from "windows 8 + osx" to "ubuntu + windows 10". Nobody tinkers with anything and everything just works. Its just a bit faster and cheaper now.
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#18Anecdotally, my almost four-year old Surface Pro 2 is still a perfect dev machine.
Everyone seem to love Surface Pro 2. I wish I had bought one when it was announced.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees... How is this enforced? If you have a file a lawsuit, the costs/time/effort might not be worth it.
The ACCC handles complaints on behalf of consumers, and is more than happy to fine or litigate [1]. Most companies comply well before this stage. 1: https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-takes-action-agai...
The ACCC and ACL are awesome. Companies should just not suck, but unfortunately they can't be trusted not to suck.
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#20I'm a long time Microsoft user, sure I dabbled with Linux in my youth, but I never quite got into the tinkering culture and having to spend a day per month in configuring to make things work the way I wanted just wasn't me. Professionaly I'm now in management but the majority of my development experience had been with .Net. Sure I dabbled with all the open source hyped techs when I was younger, but ultimately settled…
"These days windows just feels wrong though. It's probably just me but I feel like my windows machines are basically iPads with keyboards that I can't really do anything with the way I want to. Git sucks on windows, paints replacement sucks, almost anything that isn't .Net development sucks and Visual Studio has to live in a cage or it takes over everything from wanting to debug your steam library to howling at the m…
What are your issues with git on Windows?
Not sure why you feel Windows is "appallingly terrible" for set up of development tools either? Care to expand on why this is the case?
Genuinely curious, if only becasue I don't have these problems...