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Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by arkitaip »

acdha wrote: post #14
deepspace wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately you are several years too late. The site and community used to be amazing when Matt and Jessamyn ran the show, but went it started going downhill after Josh Millard took over and is now a shadow of its former self.

You're the second person I've heard make that claim but I don't think it's anywhere near as accepted as you're presenting it. I personally don't see a quality hit so much as the general decline in all sites which aren't Facebook and when Google chose to cut their ad revenue by ~40% which forced them to lay off moderators: https://matt.haughey.com/on-the-future-of-metafilter-941d15e...

There has been no decline in quality and blaming cortex is utter bullshit. My guess is that the haters never liked mefi in the first place and are abusing the change in management to attack the site.

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by Apocryphon »

sien wrote: post #28
dws wrote: post #16

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Huh? I've been hanging around Metafilter for many years. There have been changes since it ran on a box under Matt's desk, but "used to be amazing" to "going downhill"? Not seeing it. It's still one of the most civil places around.

It is very civil. But that's because it's an echo chamber where everyone must have the same views. The parent is dead right. MeFi was interesting was then was civil disagreement. Everyone piling on and 'favouriting' how bad Conservatives | Trump | Business | Capitalism | Libertarians | Rupert Murdoch are is very dull. It's still good for some funny cat pictures and stuff though. Oh, and just for HN readers, MeFi thes…

MeFi does tend to paint places such as HN with a broad brush, but such opinions should also cause some soul-searching in HN when the opportunity arises.

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by arkitaip »

deepspace wrote: post #22
ddellacosta wrote: post #11

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How has it gone downhill?

Maybe its just me, but back in the day (early 2000s) we used to have raucous (but still very civil) discussions about controversial topics, with little or no moderator interference. Shortly after cortex joined, submissions and comments which did not conform to a very narrow set of socio-political viewpoints started getting censored, and these days there is pretty much no room for controversial content. Sure, I can se…

Cortex has been a member since 2001 and a mod since 2007. You mean it's been going downhill for a decade because cortex? C'mon, don't be silly now.

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by gumboshoes »

markbnine wrote: post #25

Our local library is more like a free internet shop with half the terminals taken up by transients and the other half by kids from the nearby jr. high, playing shoot-em ups. It's impossible to get a terminal. They also have a huge DVD collection that rivals the old blockbusters. Not sure who's checking out books anymore.

User complains that there are also other users. Film at 11.

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by rwallace »

booksnobbery wrote: post #34
markbnine wrote: post #25

Our local library is more like a free internet shop with half the terminals taken up by transients and the other half by kids from the nearby jr. high, playing shoot-em ups. It's impossible to get a terminal. They also have a huge DVD collection that rivals the old blockbusters. Not sure who's checking out books anymore.

What makes anyone's needs or social status less valid than any other library patron?

I don't think it's valid to prioritize access on the basis of social status, but I do think it's valid to prioritize need before entertainment. If you're playing a game and someone comes along who needs to fill out a job application form and there are no free terminals, you have a moral obligation to give up your seat.

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by gumboshoes »

scrame wrote: post #4
jessamyn wrote: post #2

Hey!

Makes me wonder how much cross-pollination there is between HN and MeFi.

My suspicion? A lot, and most of it from the older Metafilter users who, like me, miss the heyday of the link blog. That's basically what I use HN for.

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by gumboshoes »

deepspace wrote: post #9
jordigh wrote: post #6

> the community blog Metafilter, which is like the civilized version of Reddit. Wait, what? That sounds wonderful, I'm signing up.

Unfortunately you are several years too late. The site and community used to be amazing when Matt and Jessamyn ran the show, but went it started going downhill after Josh Millard took over and is now a shadow of its former self.

What? That's BS. I've been with Metafilter since its first month and its as great as it ever was!

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by nyolfen »

arkitaip wrote: post #38
deepspace wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately you are several years too late. The site and community used to be amazing when Matt and Jessamyn ran the show, but went it started going downhill after Josh Millard took over and is now a shadow of its former self.

Nonsense. Cortex (Josh) and mods have been working hard and it shows in that quality is what it's always been.

i have never encountered a more intense progressive echo chamber than what metafilter has become, and i visited it regularly for a decade

Re: Jessamyn West, Technology Lady (2015)

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Post by nyolfen »

arkitaip wrote: post #39
sien wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very civil. But that's because it's an echo chamber where everyone must have the same views. The parent is dead right. MeFi was interesting was then was civil disagreement. Everyone piling on and 'favouriting' how bad Conservatives | Trump | Business | Capitalism | Libertarians | Rupert Murdoch are is very dull. It's still good for some funny cat pictures and stuff though. Oh, and just for HN readers, MeFi thes…

Mefi has always been to the left, everyone knows it. Just because it doesn't align your your politics doesn't make it bad. Probably does you good to get out of your own bubble.

metafilter used to have left slant but a degree of diversity. i specifically recall ironhands(? or similar) as a respected conservative commenter. those days are long, long gone. having the wrong opinion gets you run out.
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