> employees secretly using Spotify.
Well yeah. There's not even competition there. And shouldn't be really, they are fundamentally different platforms.
SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors
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#42What a messed up article. I don't know this CEO but using a picture taken at a festival two years ago as proof of incompetence seems very cheap.
Indeed–that image caption serves absolutely no purpose except to beat on someone who is at a low point anyway. And it doesn't even make sense! Taking a vacation every now and then is likely to improve productivity, and for SoundCloud specifically, it seems almost necessary to go to Burning Man and mingle. The criticism is especially rich coming from a guy who looks at least twice as stoned in his official TechCrunch…
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#43> If it can’t find funding or a buyer, SoundCloud could vaporize, destroying its massive archive of user-uploaded music, podcasts and other sounds. Wrong. If Soundcloud goes bankrupt then the state tries to find a buyer for a new SoundCloud with a virgin cap table. So Soundcloud won't disappear whatever happens.
Are you sure that is what happens, given that SoundCloud is a German company? Afaik a kind of administrator gets appointed by the Court who can take over administration of the company, not sure about the cap table though.
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#44For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.
Volume control on embedded player.
Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors
#45For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.
Don't make a business out of it, at least not directly. Make an open source, federated clone, ideally with something like GNUSocial driving it - something that doesn't go down under the pressure of endless bullshit DMCA claims or investor pressure. Sell your services as a consultant maintaining it for artists who can't get the technical bits down.
We have got to quit trusting commercial entities with our culture. They are not good stewards of it.
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#46i really like soundcloud for drum and bass mixes that would otherwise be pretty difficult / impossible to find otherwise. I will miss it if it goes under :(
Same here. The EDM catalog was/is? awesome.
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#47What a messed up article. I don't know this CEO but using a picture taken at a festival two years ago as proof of incompetence seems very cheap.
edit: Apparently the photo was changed within the hour. According to Google Cache, this is what was in the article:
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What was the original caption/photo? Right now, it says:
> SoundCloud CEO Alex Ljung would be replaced if the company receives the new funding
FWIW, in other articles, it's been insinuated that Ljung went off to Burning Man at a time when Rome was burning:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanmac/inside-the-storm-at-soundcl...
> By August 2014, it was abundantly clear that the SoundCloud’s advertising program, which would allow artists and labels to collect royalties, would not launch as planned. Despite Toig’s promises, not a single major label had agreed to a deal. The project launched with a eleventh-hour pivot to focus on independent creators, with Toig later apologizing at an all-hands meeting for failing to sign the majors...Ljung assured everyone in attendance that the label arrangements would eventually get done. A few days later, he flew to California and went off the grid. It was time for Burning Man.
Further down in the article:
> ...The stalled deals also affected internal operations at SoundCloud headquarters in Berlin. Though the $150 million round never closed, managers had been instructed to double the size of the company’s 150-person engineering team.Meanwhile, Ljung continued to travel the world. In May 2015, he spoke at a Burning Man–esque festival outside of Las Vegas called Further Future. In June, he showed up in an ad campaign for Italian luxury company Salvatore Ferragamo. When SoundCloud employees from around the world flew to Berlin for an August retreat, he was nowhere to be found.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tweeted to the author: https://twitter.com/alanhamlett/status/895725907356205056
Looks like they updated the image? Now I'm curious what they were using before.
This is what it looked like before the change: http://archive.is/j8cns
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#49I pretty much saw this coming. Posted to a IPFS group last year about using IPFS to make a decentralized soundcloud clone. I was lucky enough to get a response from Juan, the creator of IPFS. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ipfs-users/1Mu2Vh8sh...
I honestly don't understand the hate. If you're going to DV me at least take a sec to read the thread or let me know what your issue is. The thread has some good responses from Juan; that's really the only reason I posted it here. I thought of going decentralized because (at the time) I loved soundcloud. I used it as an artist and also as a listener. I've been around long enough to know that their model was not sustainable and eventually all the great content would disappear. Decentralized makes sense for something like SC. Let the people who find it valuable share in the costs of serving it a la bit torrent.
Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors
#50For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.
+ soundcloud redesign
+ merge the same shared track > bob shared "sounds01" > randy shared "sounds01" {at a later time} >>merge names if the same track is shared > Bob & Randy shared "sounds01" >>ui animations if in real time change of merge, otherwise don't animate
+ make an artist collaboration area > see Reestablishing Groups/Clubs
+ different subscription models > free artist account > paid artist account [removes ads + more upload space] ~ > free listener account > paid listener account [removes ads + more playlists] ~ > advertiser account [design fill-form ads that link directly to soundcloud track/album (all ads are in the same style, text and links.)]
+ less hassle create playlists - ui > see old soundcloud, pre-redesign
+ no hidden ui buttons [download, buy etc]
+ having another subcategory called 'reposted/shared' along side tracks, etc. > toggle reposts on paid accounts
+ groups/clubs readded > Reestablishing Groups/Clubs to make soundcloud more open to collaboration and like minded playlists. > Group playlists