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Post by seanp2k2 »

wiz21c wrote: post #598
alkonaut wrote: post #550

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You don't need "everything" but you need enough. If you subscribe to e.g Spotify you initially get surprised by some things not being in their library. However the library is so large and the use of a single service so convenient that most people can simply accept what's there. After the initial disappointment, any further disappointment is nearly zero so long as you keep all your discovery of new music within Spotif…

I understand that you like to discover new music. But for me it's the other way around, I like to discover old stuff. Basically, things that I should I've listened at 30 years ago. Moreover, in that old stuff, it's always things that I've missed at that time, so most of the time, it's very niche stuff (old EBM tracks, obscure new wave bands, etc.); if it was not niche, then I wouldn't have missed it. So for me, the c…

Torrent sites are also serving this need, but the barriers to entry are high. There's not many (or any) distribution channels for some of this stuff today. If you're looking for some old screamo that was only released in small numbers on vinyl, good luck finding it. That's an extreme example, but really we're talking about preserving art here. Some art has millions of prints, some was one-time performance art. The music industry will only sell you a very small % of what has been created.

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Post by seanp2k2 »

4ad wrote: post #591
rhaps0dy wrote: post #577

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As a solution to (1) you can use youtube-dl https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ It supports downloading only the audio.

But why would you download a (probably illegal) rip that is poor quality, when the act of downloading and keeping the rip is probably illegal in itself (not exactly sure about that) from a platform that is notoriously unsuitable for music when you could just download high-quality release from a music tracker specially optimised for this use case? I mean, if you are ok with doing something (probably) illegal, why not…

Because I only listen to vaporwave that was pulled from SoundCloud.

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Post by larrik »

thrownblown wrote: post #709
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If GPM had a Linux client, I would consider switching to it.

https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/ works on linux and there's also an unofficial API https://unofficial-google-music-api.readthedocs.io/en/latest... I make playlists almost daily for work and I use the API to manage them, dedupe, delete old ones, and what not. Super convenient. But the web UX has gone to crap. There was an update a few months ago that really killed its performance and broke the playlist so…

Sure, but Spotify has a Linux client, so I'd rather they get my money.

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Post by upvotinglurker »

chrishacken wrote: post #398
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Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

| The biggest deterrent, for me at least, is not the price but the need to switch platforms. I'm already annoyed when I have to go from Netflix to Amazon to find a movie/show I want to see but can't remember where it is. No chance I'll add a third, forth, or fifth platform to the mix. That's my biggest pain point as well. I already have to switch between Netflix / Hulu / Amazon to figure out who has the content I wan…

Using Prime and Netflix with the FireTV Stick, if I search for a movie in Amazon's interface and Netflix has it, Amazon will tell me so and provide a button to click directly to that movie in the Netflix app. Same with the Showtime app (not sure about Hulu as I don't subscribe to it currently)

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Post by squillful »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #765
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> I love Google Play Music for exactly this reason: I have 20k songs uploaded and counting. No other service is offering anything close. Actually Apple Music offers exactly this. There might be other reasons you'd prefer not to use it, which is fine, but in terms of offering they're actually quite similar. Except Apple will actually allow you to upload more songs than Google Music, up to 100,000.

It's still silly to upload all the music I have that they don't when they probably do already store it for someone else. Just checksum my files to ~prove that I have it. I'm sure no one cares enough about it to generate hash collisions for MP3s. Do they really store unique copies of every mp3 for ever user? That seems insanely inefficient, and yet I wouldn't be surprised if their contracts with the music industry sti…

Yep, that would be incredibly ineffecient, so they use a smarter approach - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205919#existing

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Post by zapt02 »

wodenokoto wrote: post #557
davedx wrote: post #483

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Hi, family with 4 kids, very happy to see Vaiana come on Netflix the other week. No way in hell will we pay an extra subscription just to watch old Disney films. I want one streaming service and will pay more for more (I upgraded our Netflix to support more devices). I will not pay for multiple services like this.

I think the future you are looking at is no Disney content on Netflix and much, much more Disney content on Disney-flix.

This exactly. When Disney has nothing on Netflix, people will miss it. It is a risky move however, as Netflix is sure to launch shows targeted to the Disney demographic very shortly after Disney leaves, and they are a force to be reckoned with.

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Post by zapt02 »

davedx wrote: post #484
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I said western-world families. That amount is chump change to most of them, considering how expensive it is to raise a family. Nostalgia + keeping their kids busy = priceless.

Hahaha you'll find having a family in the west means you have a lot less money to blow on single content streaming services. :) We have a dual income (both successful professionals) and we are careful with our money. We have to be with all those child related expenses.

But it's for your kids. Then all sense goes out the window.

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #290
ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #267

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Exactly. That's why they HAD to make this move. The Disney channel is getting hurt badly by families cutting the cord. Disney streaming will be just as much about "The Mickey Mouse Club" as it is about big budget blockbusters. I have a 2 year old. I will be wherever the Disney content is, and they could charge me basically whatever price they want.

Why is Disney content so important to you, do you think watching a specific brand of movie/show is _that_ enriching to your child's life? Disney's attitude to selling to children is toxic IMO. But perhaps if you fully inhale you actually do start to get happier by just buying the latest movie franchise tie-in toy, made of cheap plastic using exploited labour?

You make some good points, but I don't think you have had a 2 year old.

It's not about enriching their lives, or encouraging their development by moving them away from material things...yet. Those goals come a little later.

My kid is actually 1.8, I was rounding up. He likes Moana and watches it every day. He can say ~15 words. The movie's chicken and recognizing songs he has heard before result in pure joy.

He likes to watches the Mickey Mouse club and also likes to point out the characters he recognizes. This is intellectually rewarding to him, because it is at the absolute edge of his abilities.

But I think like you. Disney is evil. When he turns 5, I will throw a brick through the TV and hand him a copy of WALDEN. For now, I'm fucked, at the mercy of a vicious corporate Mouse.

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Post by SllX »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #492
SllX wrote: post #448

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Used to work in a café. It's not the coffee people are paying for, it's all the milk and sugar added on top. Unless you go to Philz*. Sometimes you're also paying for quality, but even then that only comes out to about a dollar premium, but a latte is literally just a crapton of steamed milk poured over some coffee, plus whatever syrups and other crap (chocolate and maybe whipped cream if you want a mocha) thrown in.…

Plus the costs of running the cafe! Plenty of HNers know how crazy Bay Area rent is. Business rent is just as much of a rip. It's $6 for a 12oz mocha because they have to pay a ton for space, taxes, labor, supplies, equipment, power, water, etc.

Actually I would say $6 for a 12oz mocha is (presently) still a rip-off. It might not just be you that's getting ripped off though, I talked to some guys who opened up a Boba joint and they were getting taken for a ride on their lease for a space they were subleasing from another restaurant, which was the main reason they went out of business. From the amount they quoted, they were probably paying the entire restaurant's lease, which is to say, some small business owners are unable to successfully negotiate a good lease.

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Post by SllX »

cfmcdonald wrote: post #724
SllX wrote: post #448

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Used to work in a café. It's not the coffee people are paying for, it's all the milk and sugar added on top. Unless you go to Philz*. Sometimes you're also paying for quality, but even then that only comes out to about a dollar premium, but a latte is literally just a crapton of steamed milk poured over some coffee, plus whatever syrups and other crap (chocolate and maybe whipped cream if you want a mocha) thrown in.…

Okay, but then you're not talking about a coffee any more. I typically pay ~$1.50 for a coffee, and it takes only a few seconds of labor (often just giving me a cup so I can fill it myself). Edit: Missed the pour over part, yes if you want to pay and wait for that. I'm not convinced that there's any discernable difference from a regular drip coffee that would stand up to a blind taste test (cf wine tasting).

I agree, but when people are talking about coffee in general, it is important to know what they are actually referring to, in this case, coffee-based drinks. I am unaware of any establishment that would actually charge $4 for a self-serve drip coffee.
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