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Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

#11

Can someone who's a better cook than this author tell us their opinion of the taste?

It's a delicious, sweet, nutty aroma that marries extremely well with chocolate. The Swiss chocolate manufacturer Villars makes a delicious "Praliné fève Tonka" that I can't recommend enough :)

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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post #8

I was surprised the article didn't mention nutmeg, which is widely used despite its toxicity, so I tried to figure out how their LD50 compares (i.e. how much tonka nut you need to eat to have a 50% chance of death, and how nutmeg stacks up). I couldn't find any clear answers for tonka beans and the exact dose of course depends on body weight but the lethal doses for nutmeg were an order of magnitude higher: for nutme…

> for nutmeg the doses are given in thousands of grammes per kg body weight

Is it really fair to call something toxic if the LD50 is more than your bodyweight? I suspect you might have your LD50 value off.

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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post #12
post #8

I was surprised the article didn't mention nutmeg, which is widely used despite its toxicity, so I tried to figure out how their LD50 compares (i.e. how much tonka nut you need to eat to have a 50% chance of death, and how nutmeg stacks up). I couldn't find any clear answers for tonka beans and the exact dose of course depends on body weight but the lethal doses for nutmeg were an order of magnitude higher: for nutme…

> for nutmeg the doses are given in thousands of grammes per kg body weight Is it really fair to call something toxic if the LD50 is more than your bodyweight? I suspect you might have your LD50 value off.

Oops, you're right. I meant to say milligrammes. I haven't had much sleep lately and my brain's not working right. I'll edit.

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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post #8

I was surprised the article didn't mention nutmeg, which is widely used despite its toxicity, so I tried to figure out how their LD50 compares (i.e. how much tonka nut you need to eat to have a 50% chance of death, and how nutmeg stacks up). I couldn't find any clear answers for tonka beans and the exact dose of course depends on body weight but the lethal doses for nutmeg were an order of magnitude higher: for nutme…

Nutmeg is still dangerous in non-lethal doses. Eating just a couple nuts will put you in a fairly unpleasant delirious state for up to 2 full days.

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

#15

Can someone who's a better cook than this author tell us their opinion of the taste?

Yes, that part about his cooking experiment was rather ridiculous. It marries very well with vanilla and chocolate. By itself it has a bit of a sweet nutty flavor that is rather complex.

To be slighlty flippant, it's kind of the shitake (or msg) of desert, it enhances the rest of the flavors.

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The use of BOLD TEXT is also a bit annoying. I wonder if it has to to with the fact that this is the BBC Future section.

The bold text is for links. Confused me at first, too. Really poor choice.

I can mentally ignore links, but I don't mentally ignore bold. I assume that if an author is using bold, then they're trying to tell me something really important.

But, if bolding hyperlinks becomes the "new style" of online writing, then I guess I'll have to slowly learn to desensitize myself to bolded text as well.

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

#18

Can someone who's a better cook than this author tell us their opinion of the taste?

It tastes delicious and has a fantastic aroma. It's quite complex. I'd put it somewhere between vanilla, marzipan and cinnamon. I've tried it with chocolate, almond, vanilla, fruit, cream, custard with good results. It also apparently goes well with fish (haven't tried it yet).

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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Can someone who's a better cook than this author tell us their opinion of the taste?

The article is correct that it tastes a lot like vanilla. Nothing special if you ask me, there's plenty of spices with more characteristic taste. Maybe if used by an exceptional chef will make a bigger difference, I don't know

I've heard that the actual fruit is very tasty but I've never seen or tried one

Re: Tonka beans – A delicious flavour with a toxic chemical

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post #8

I was surprised the article didn't mention nutmeg, which is widely used despite its toxicity, so I tried to figure out how their LD50 compares (i.e. how much tonka nut you need to eat to have a 50% chance of death, and how nutmeg stacks up). I couldn't find any clear answers for tonka beans and the exact dose of course depends on body weight but the lethal doses for nutmeg were an order of magnitude higher: for nutme…

Nutmeg is still dangerous in non-lethal doses. Eating just a couple nuts will put you in a fairly unpleasant delirious state for up to 2 full days.

I've heard it's much better fresh than dried
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