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Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by CWuestefeld »

spiralx wrote: post #250
baby wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly nothing beats Tree Style Tab, have you tried it?

Tab Outliner does all of that and more as far as I can tell. I'm certainly happy using it.

Perhaps the biggest reason I use Firefox is for Tree Style Tabs. I've tried to find something equivalent in Chrome.

I installed Tab Outliner briefly, and honestly, I couldn't figure out what the heck it was trying to do. Maybe my mental capacity is too limited, but as far as I could tell it didn't get me one iota closer to my goal. What I've settled on, for the times when I need to use Chrome, is an external helper app called Sidewise.

So Tab Outliner needs to do a LOT more to make its operation more discoverable if it wants more users.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by vocatus_gate »

ingenuous2 wrote: post #148
smkdtr wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone worried about security; I hope that is not the majority opinion.

Usability will always beat security. This is why usability is one of the 2 most important concerns in security.

Security is like Safety: if it is put on a holy pedestal then everything else suffers.

I always say "Safety Third."

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by sp332 »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #227
sp332 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But as a user, you're probably just going to want to know if there is an extension that does what you need. Are you worried about the underlying APIs if you're not a developer?

I don't care for myself, but the author of one of my favorite extensions has stated that he's not porting to a webextension because he doesn't want to rewrite (again) and because (at the time he looked, at least) the APIs didn't really support it. I don't care about the API directly, but I absolutely care when they're insufficient.

The API is expanding pretty quickly and FF developers are taking input from addon devs. https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebExtensions#Firefox_57 There are even some people who have "office hours" available to give advice for porting old plugins to the new APIs. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/03/09/office-hours-supp... They really don't want the APIs to be insufficient either.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by SaladFork »

littlestymaar wrote: post #268
Hasknewbie wrote: post #52

Slightly OT: is that what a 'Discourse' page looks like? It's pretty awful: it will automatically update the URL as you scroll past each post in any direction, while breaking the Back button, so good luck getting back to the original post, since neither clicking on Back nor reloading the page will get you there. Basic UX failure.

It looks like a feature to me : this way when you copy the address it links directly to the right comment. Of course this comes at the expense of a working back button.

The page is using Location.replace[0] to update the URL and replaces the current history entry without affecting back/forward behavior on pretty much any browser.

The one downside is that the URL may no longer point to the comment you were originally linked to.

[0] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Location/re...

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by Piskvorrr »

gsnedders wrote: post #236
Piskvorrr wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never did - Opera was killed just after Kestrel, and a new Chrome clone was slapped with the logo and name. There is no Opera, and hasn't been for some time.

Opera was killed just after 9.6? I thought it survived till Wahoo.

Ah, sorry, my bad, got the codenames mixed up. Presto, i.e. 12.15.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by TacoScott »

wfunction wrote: post #90
yborg wrote: post #9

I found this disturbing: "Chromium-based browsers are being “infested” by Instart Logic tech which works around blockers and worst, around browser privacy settings (they may start “infecting” Firefox eventually, but that is not happening now)." From his linked post: "Instart Logic will detect when the developer console opens, and cleanup everything then to hide what it does" Is this implemented via a CDN-delivered sc…

Any more reading on the Instart Logic tech detecting dev tools and hiding itself? I can't find much online.

Typically it seems to poll window height/width vars in js. https://github.com/sindresorhus/devtools-detect

Another variant: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7798748/find-out-whether...

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by mijoharas »

exDM69 wrote: post #212
bad_user wrote: post #174

After being a Chrome user for several years, I've switched back to Firefox for the past two years or so and I'm really, really happy with it. Latest version does multi-processing, e10s is finally here (though it might still get disabled by usage of certain add-ons, I remember I had to force it to stay enabled). On performance, in the past it felt sluggish, but now Firefox is fast and for my usage patterns it uses les…

To me, the best feature of Firefox compared to Chromium (both out of the box, no extensions. not sure if there are extensions that could help) is the address bar. Firefox does a fuzzy search into your browsing history and if you visit the same sites often, the suggestions are quite good. Contrast this with Chrome, where the idea behind address bar user experience seems to be maximizing the number of Google searches d…

> But the one that really keeps me on Firefox is Vimperator. It's the best keyboard oriented browser UI in mainstream browsers. The extensions available for Chrome are nowhere near as good (last time I tried).

Did you ever use vimium on chrome? It's part of what keeps me on Chrome, I remember I had a quick glance at Vimperator a fair while ago, but switched back to chrome as it was what I was used to. I keep wondering about trying again.

Can you talk about the trade-offs between them?

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by [deleted] »

exDM69 wrote: post #212
bad_user wrote: post #174

After being a Chrome user for several years, I've switched back to Firefox for the past two years or so and I'm really, really happy with it. Latest version does multi-processing, e10s is finally here (though it might still get disabled by usage of certain add-ons, I remember I had to force it to stay enabled). On performance, in the past it felt sluggish, but now Firefox is fast and for my usage patterns it uses les…

To me, the best feature of Firefox compared to Chromium (both out of the box, no extensions. not sure if there are extensions that could help) is the address bar. Firefox does a fuzzy search into your browsing history and if you visit the same sites often, the suggestions are quite good. Contrast this with Chrome, where the idea behind address bar user experience seems to be maximizing the number of Google searches d…

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Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by fencepost »

caoilte wrote: post #176
fencepost wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think "not designed with Firefox in mind" breaks things, try using uMatrix for a while.

I've been using uMatrix for over three years and very very few websites don't work with it. By far the most annoying 'feature' (more of a consequence of the internet) is the way that you can't whitelist HTTPS sub-domains. (Makes AWS Console a pain.)

Does AWS Console have much that needs blocking? Seems a reasonable place to simply turn off uMatrix. You could also simply use a second browser with uBlock Origin for a limited number of sites - I tend to do that for a lot of checkout /payment options where the repeated reloads of whitelisting in uMatrix could be troublesome.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by ams6110 »

yborg wrote: post #9

I found this disturbing: "Chromium-based browsers are being “infested” by Instart Logic tech which works around blockers and worst, around browser privacy settings (they may start “infecting” Firefox eventually, but that is not happening now)." From his linked post: "Instart Logic will detect when the developer console opens, and cleanup everything then to hide what it does" Is this implemented via a CDN-delivered sc…

> Instart Logic tech which works around blockers

Hadn't heard about this, but this is why I still keep long blacklist in my /etc/hosts file even though I use uBlock Origin also.

Out of habit I get mine from http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm. Not sure it's the best one, but I started using it years ago when I was still using Windows and have just stuck with it.

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