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uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by technion »

NormenKD wrote: post #24

I am considering going back to FF, but it seems FIDO U2F still isn't done completely and the U2F Extension for FF is not working anymore since the WebExtension switch. Please correct me if missed something, but i think i have to hold off for a little bit longer.

Side question, where are you using U2F?

I love the principle, but I can't use it with AWS, I can't use it with my bank, I can't use it with my domain registrar, and I can't use it with Office 365.

That's 0/4 of the high priority targets for me.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by mtgx »

homero wrote: post #17
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

> It baffles me that some people thinks Firefox is becoming a “Chrome clone”, it’s just not the case, it’s just plain silly to make such statement. That's probably the single most reassuring statement about Firefox that I've heard in some time, coming from a serious dev who makes a popular cross-platform addon for both Firefox and Chrome.

What do you think of Opera becoming Chrome?

I think I preferred it, but what killed Opera for me was being bought by a Chinese company + seeing what that company did to Opera Max (which I thought was a "killer app" before the acquisition).

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by bugmen0t »

Karunamon wrote: post #56
Paul-ish wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, the move to WebExtensions is a move to a more secure extension model. Traditional XUL extensions were comparable to the extension developer compiling their own code into the browser. Yikes. WebExtensions should be better sandboxed and have better permissions management. You can't get those security benefits if you allow older XUL extensions to stick around. You have to sunset XUL extension at some point.

To be perfectly honest I'm not at all interested in "better permissions" for plugins when it comes with the removal of flexibility that you get for free. If I've got plugin-installing malware on my system, I've got worse problems than a rogue plugin. Give me more useful over more secure any day of the week.

But the flexibility did not come for free! Whenever they changed internal interfaces, they'd either have to create a clone, call it interface2 or break all extensions using them. That's for internal interfaces.

The new model also means actual public support for a well-defined API. It's so much better for developers.

Besides, it also enables some big performance and security wins.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by 482794793792894 »

wyc wrote: post #107
fabrice_d wrote: post #98

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If that was that clear cut, they would ship tracking protection enabled by default, not just in Private Browsing mode. The default configuration of Safari is actually protecting you better than Firefox's and most users don't have an ad blocker installed.

Good point. Mozilla made most of their money from Google, and other advertisers, iirc. "More free" might've been prudent. You make a good observation about Safari too. Apple doesn't make much money from advertising--they still sell hardware. They can provide privacy to users at little expense to their core business.

> Mozilla made most of their money from Google, and other advertisers, iirc.

The much bigger problem is webpage owners which lose almost all incentive to support Firefox, if it blocks their ads. You'd have broken webpages all over the place.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by edgartaor »

arca_vorago wrote: post #127
fencepost wrote: post #110

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If you think "not designed with Firefox in mind" breaks things, try using uMatrix for a while.

If people would focus on content in HTML and CSS for layout and newfad devs weren't shoving 50 jscripts a page down our throat this wouldn't be happening as bad. I plan to make all my future sites librejs compatible, and forgoe js altogether whenever possible.

How this could be done if your backend it's a REST API?

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by Too »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #95
retox wrote: post #69

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I always hit DDG first then if the results aren't great just append the Google bang (!g) in the DDG search field to get an unbubbled goog search. The DDG bang system is one of its best features in my mind. https://duckduckgo.com/bang

How often do you end up at Google though; a few years back I tried DDG for a couple of months but ended up basically always doing !g and so went back to Google. Might be time for another go?

For anything tech-related or everyday information DDG provides more reliable results than google because it's less infected by sales and SEO-spammers.

For local businesses and really rare topics Google is better.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by notatoad »

yohui wrote: post #152

> Chromium-based browsers do not support user styles Does anyone know what gorhill means by this? Stylish for Chrome seems to work fine: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylish-custom-the... Am I missing something? (Probably, but what?)

IIRC, stylish for chrome converts userstyles into javascript, and runs the scripts to add inline styles to elements on the page. stylish for firefox changes the page's stylesheet.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by bugmen0t »

cakeface wrote: post #118
NormenKD wrote: post #24

I am considering going back to FF, but it seems FIDO U2F still isn't done completely and the U2F Extension for FF is not working anymore since the WebExtension switch. Please correct me if missed something, but i think i have to hold off for a little bit longer.

That is my understanding as well. I haven't been able to get my U2F working on recent Firefox builds. It's such a shame because I really want to use U2F instead of an authenticator app. I have like 20 different sites in there and finding the right number always takes me a minute or two. Also Google Hangouts and Meet do not work.

meet worked well for me the other day on Firefox Nightly (57)
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