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Music Fandom Maps

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Post by diehell »

oonny wrote: post #50
diehell wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like to do the same with my country (malaysia). Even video amigo doesn't have the stats for mine. How would one do this? That's the interesting bit.

yours as in ... you as an artist? these are the top channels in Malaysia: https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-channels?c...

No,i am not an artist. Just for fun, to have an idea, how does; in this situation (music, be it unsigned artist or artist) youtube views coincide with the local mainstream (radio) plays.

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Post by coldtea »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #44
coldtea wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ehh if you look back a lot of the music from any decade is crap. Not necessarily true. Some decades stand out while others do not. Like the 60s for example vs the 90s. People in the 70s and 80s still cherished 60s icons, but few in the 00s and 10s care for 90s music (there's more interest in 80s music).

Hmm, interesting—from my perspective, i have similarly strong intuition for love of decades, but mapped differently. For instance i know virtually nobody into 80s music, but 90s r&b and hip-hop are reliable favorites. My point being: give me a good band, and i can list three at the same time that people don't bring up anymore because they suck. I firmly believe this is nostalgic bias at work, although i dislike taylo…

>For instance i know virtually nobody into 80s music, but 90s r&b and hip-hop are reliable favorites.

If you've grown in the 90s then that is probably skewed (from nostalgia etc), but I'm not talking about that (observations between personal friends etc of the same generation).

I'm talking about later generations insisting/obsessing on some previous decades (that they weren't even alive or old enough to experience). So statistically speaking (based on releases that "recreate" that sound, shows, movies and books about the era, re-releases, fashion, etc).

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Post by no_gravity »

anonu wrote: post #35
no_gravity wrote: post #13

Since I run https://www.music-map.com this naturally caught my eye. Unfortunately, there is no word on the methodology except that they did it with "the help of YouTube’s geocoded streaming data". Does anybody know what that is?

How does your music map work? Not too clear on how related artists are picked. Also, I'm guessing that the nyt got some sort of special dataset from YouTube. Geo located streams are priveleged to the content owner, per the YouTube API.

It is all user driven. The map is based on what people enter at http://www.gnoosic.com.

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Post by devotedtoneu »

no_gravity wrote: post #13

Since I run https://www.music-map.com this naturally caught my eye. Unfortunately, there is no word on the methodology except that they did it with "the help of YouTube’s geocoded streaming data". Does anybody know what that is?

This is an aside but I'm wondering if you have any recommendations for finding new music one may enjoy?

Frustrated with music recommendation services I built a ruby script this past weekend to scrape my favorite artist's last.fm pages and then iterate on each follower, compiling a list of their likes to sort of crowd-source music recommendations for myself.

This too resulted in failure, it seems that the problem is me, I'm far too picky.

I'd love to get your insight on any alternative strategies for finding new artists if your likes don't necessarily fit squarely inside genres.

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Post by freehunter »

leemcalilly wrote: post #49
sushisource wrote: post #15

As with any map like this, the most startling thing to me is how the south really is a totally different culture, almost a totally different country.

Here's an interesting filter to apply to this map: all of the innovative music from the last 100 years originated in the triangle between Memphis, New Orleans and Nashville—blues, jazz, R&B, rock and roll, and country. All of those genres were born in that small geographical area. It's the Silicon valley of modern music. You could also argue that hip hop is a permutation of blues/r&b.

What's also interesting is that now that triangle is "the established players" and the disruption comes from various other areas. Grunge from Seattle, Motown/R&B from Detroit, hip-hop from Atlanta, old-time from Asheville, electric blues from Chicago.

Much like how Apple from Silicon Valley owned the idea of buying digital music until Spotify swooped in from Sweden and disrupted that business model and forced Apple to change their plans, the Nashville sound is in constant danger of being disrupted from afar by similar-but-more-modern sounds.

Interesting parallel I think.

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