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Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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> If we make it easier to quickly travel longer distances in/out of work hubs, the intense demand for housing can be diffused to communities that can handle it. Wow, just wow. Mountain View, Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, Cupertino et al can all "handle it" they just don't want to. There is plenty of space for transit oriented housing and office space along the cal-train corridor. If Cupertino can "handle" an office space for…

I live in Mountain View, and I've lived here for 20 years and followed local politics all this time. I'm also, unlike most of my fellow residents, pro development and think that increasing density is the only way out of this housing debacle, but maybe I'm biased by having lived in NYC and seen that high density can work.

Where we are today is that your basic crappy 2/1 or 3/1 starter home is over a million dollars here. They're $2 million in a better neighborhood. The majority of higher density housing is rentals, not owner condos. We're losing everyone except families with dual high income workers due to housing costs here.

One big part of the problems is that residents who already own property resist change and want Mountain View to remain as it was when they moved in. It's a selfish mindset, commonly likened to pulling up the ladder behind you when you get on a ship to keep others out. Whenever there's a development proposal, a vocal group of generally older and retired folks show up to try shouting it down. The anti-development people constantly say that the character of the city will be ruined by more housing, but are blind to the character of the city being homogenized on high income tech workers.

Another big part of the problem is ridiculous zoning. It's basically illegal to build anything anymore given the land that's left and the density limits. Every development requires variances from the city council, so even though zoning code isn't meant to give the council the power to meddle in individual developments, it's become so overbearing that the city council effectively dictates what can be built and where, down to the type of food a restaurant will serve. This is no different than communist central planning. These code variances are attained by renovating parks, or contributing to schools, or whatever else the council wants to extort. Permit fees are well into six figures for new housing developments, per unit. Most of these are impact fees for infrastructure and parks. With the high cost of housing here, permit costs, and extortion costs, it's simply impossible to build affordable housing. This is fine, since expensive housing takes the load off the older, affordable stock, but the pace of housing growth isn't keeping up with population growth.

The local cities here belong to a larger organization called the Association Of Bay Area Governments (ABAG). ABAG sets minimum building quotas on towns, and they have to approve that many units, but where they approve the units is up to them. Here in Mountain View, the downtown area is mostly owner occupied single family homes, and these people are against increasing density at all, and probably the most vocal anti-development neighborhood. The downtown area is also the one closest to transit, which is where high density makes sense. Due to this NIMBY attitude, the new developments happen mostly along the El Camino and 101 corridors, which don't have good public transit.

It's a giant mess, basically. The same people who resist density will also resist and kind of better local transit if it means building more tracks near their house, or digging tunnels under their house.

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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The deeply ironic thing about California HSR is that it's basically going to be most useful for business travelers. Who the hell else needs to go from SF to LA on any regular basis? If you spent that money on regional rail instead, you might actually help out working class people. In cities like New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago, tons of middle class people ride the train to/from what used to be streetcar suburbs.…

California HSR goes to San Francisco, Millbrae, San Jose, Gilroy, Merced, Madera, Fresno, Hanford, Bakersfield, Palmdale, Burbank, Los Angeles, and Anaheim. It provides frequent single-seat rides between every origin-destination pair of these cities. Many of these routes don't currently have any similar commercial air service (or the air service that does exist has very high fares due to low competition and scale), s…

Regional rail facilitates regular trips between satellite cities and core cities, usually for commuting. Fares on Metro North/MARC/Metra/SEPTA are on the order of $5. On the California HSR, the fare from Fresno to San Francisco is estimated to be over $60. That puts it completely out of the ballpark of regional rail into Amtrak territory.

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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I'd be happy just to see traffic lights that actually factor traffic congestion. One of my peeves is when a traffic light makes me and a whole line of cars waste brakes to stop then waste gas to sit at a red light just to let one car go when the efficient option would have been to let the line of cars travelling 50mph go first, THEN let the loner who's already stopped go afterwards. It's a problem I've wanted to solv…

Not to mention the amount of CO2 emissions that would be reduced from drivers having to stop and re-accelerate fewer times. While I don't know if it would make much of a change during heavy traffic, I think it would make a huge difference during medium to light traffic. I like the idea of opening up light timings for public review, however figuring out how to optimize everything would probably take a great deal of co…

I agree with most of your points. However, I think it would be easier to use machine learning and computer vision to solve this problem. The profit would come in the form of reduced traffic which would mean more throughput to local businesses. FedEx would profit, trucking would profit, mom-and-pop shops with prime retail locations would profit. Hence, the municipalities would profit from surge in tax revenue. As far as processing goes, the red-light cameras get recorded somewhere, right? Why not double up those servers, put an RPI with a camera on each traffic light, and then beam the data back to the server room for processing. With machine learning and a lot of patience the system would be able to improve itself over time.

I have always believed that this problem could be solved with about $200 worth of hardware at the traffic light, a cheap mobile plan, and a central server location (wherever they host the red-light footage from cameras that already exist).

Now, if anyone has a million bucks laying around I can get to work right away. ;)

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay. And without boiling the ocean, what have you got that's better?

Short term - more buses, alternate day driving, increase incentives for no car ownership (tax rebate), increase penalties for car ownership (increase parking fees/fines, increase number of no-parking tow-away zones). Medium term - Build bike lanes, convert streets to promenades, build light rail, build traffic calmers (narrow streets, speed bumps, lane bollards) Long term - Marketing programs to encourage different b…

It must be cool to have no desire for stability in your life or the life of your spouse and offspring.

Certainly I'd find that lifestyle less difficult to plan moves around. Of course, I'd also find it fulfilling and depressing.

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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>We should double our annual infrastructure budget. We can fund this by stopping the high-speed rail, and spend the $68+ billion we are planning to spend on that on better local rapid transit systems, improved bus lines, and new roads instead. This will allow people to live in more affordable housing and have a better quality of life. Bad idea. More roads does not mean less traffic, More roads = more cars. And more i…

> Why the fuck does a software company need to be in the middle of big city.

> Live near your job

Hmm.....

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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> We can fund this by stopping the high-speed rail, and spend the $68+ billion we are planning to spend on that on better local rapid transit systems, improved bus lines, and new roads instead

This proposal would replace a real and coming solution (HSR) with vague proposals ("improved bus line") and tech that may not pan out for years if ever ("electric airplanes"). I'm skeptical.

The HSR will provide a significant improvement for the Bay Area->LA route, and provide rail service to places that currently don't have it at all (eg. Fresno->San Jose). If we kill HSR, it's entirely likely that we'll end up with both no HSR, no hyperloop, and no super-speedy self driving cars. I'd rather keep chugging along on HSR, and build the hyperloop (or whatever comes next) when it's ready.

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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Dashed-off in a hurry without thinking it through, just like most of the supposed high achievers and visionaries I know. If we make it easier to quickly travel longer distances in/out of work hubs... ...the demand for quickly traveling longer distances in/out of work hubs, increases accordingly. Which leads to the same congestion problems spreading outward. You don't want to plan your land use based on what types and…

>Based on the fact that there is now transportation available, you get mile after mile of hastily-constructed bland, dystopian nowhere suburbs that breed ennui, conformism and fascism.

The level of condescension here is overwhelming. I would love to live in a "bland, dystopian" suburb where I can afford a yard, more space for my family, access to necessities and a reasonable commute. If you'd prefer to live in a crowded city, do it, but don't think it makes you superior to anyone else.

Re: Petition for Smarter Infrastructure

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post #30

Dashed-off in a hurry without thinking it through, just like most of the supposed high achievers and visionaries I know. If we make it easier to quickly travel longer distances in/out of work hubs... ...the demand for quickly traveling longer distances in/out of work hubs, increases accordingly. Which leads to the same congestion problems spreading outward. You don't want to plan your land use based on what types and…

>Based on the fact that there is now transportation available, you get mile after mile of hastily-constructed bland, dystopian nowhere suburbs that breed ennui, conformism and fascism. The level of condescension here is overwhelming. I would love to live in a "bland, dystopian" suburb where I can afford a yard, more space for my family, access to necessities and a reasonable commute. If you'd prefer to live in a crow…

I grew up in the suburbs and I live there now, that's how I know.
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