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uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by smkdtr »

Karunamon wrote: post #56
Paul-ish wrote: post #33

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Also, the move to WebExtensions is a move to a more secure extension model. Traditional XUL extensions were comparable to the extension developer compiling their own code into the browser. Yikes. WebExtensions should be better sandboxed and have better permissions management. You can't get those security benefits if you allow older XUL extensions to stick around. You have to sunset XUL extension at some point.

To be perfectly honest I'm not at all interested in "better permissions" for plugins when it comes with the removal of flexibility that you get for free. If I've got plugin-installing malware on my system, I've got worse problems than a rogue plugin. Give me more useful over more secure any day of the week.

As someone worried about security; I hope that is not the majority opinion.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by timlyo »

abandonliberty wrote: post #46
ehaughee wrote: post #29

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This actually made me try switching to Firefox again. There's some minor things missing, but for the most part all the features I want are there.

Firefox is maybe 80% of the way there. Just like in the IE Anitrust days, firefox suffers from sites that do not design with it in mind. Still better than Google Creep. Change to a search engine that protects privacy too.

Can you recommend a search engine? I'm trying DuckDuckGo, but it's just not as good.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by ac29 »

nvarsj wrote: post #34
ohthehugemanate wrote: post #14

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57 is lightning fast. Like, almost uncomfortably so on my machine. Broay this is because quantum is much further along in nightly than on the other channels. Specifically, they're more aggressive with multithreaded settings, multiprocess is enabled, and the quantum css component is turned on, too. Is also helps that we compare to chrome. On Linux chrome doesn't even do GPU rendering. So the HN crowd probably has a di…

Firefox has always been unbearably slow on Linux for me. It's the main reason I swapped to Chrome in the first place. I tried switching back to Firefox about 6 months ago, same problem of extremely slow and laggy UI. Interesting to hear 57 is faster now, it may be worth trying again.

Go to about:config and set layers.acceleration.force-enabled to true. Made a dramatic difference for me in Linux using a Intel iGPU.

You can check the acceleration status in about:support, look at HW_COMPOSITING and OPENGL_COMPOSITING.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by tyingq »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #23
forapurpose wrote: post #18

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Also: > The purpose of Instart Logic technology is to disguise 3rd-party requests as 1st-party requests, thus bypassing content blockers, and even the ability of browsers to block 3rd-party cookies (because they are stored as 1st-party cookies): https://github.com/gorhill/uBO-Extra/wiki/Sites-on-which-uBO...

How exactly does this work? The link mentions that it detects when Dev tools are opened and changes something?

>How exactly does this work?

Which part? The making 3rd party cookies into 1st party cookies is likely just a caching proxy. They mention the speed benefits here, and not the cloaking benefit, but.. https://www.instartlogic.com/solutions/appspeed/runtime-opti...

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by syshum »

weaksauce wrote: post #54
syshum wrote: post #43

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TreeStyleTabs

https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 Seems they have all the APIs needed for it at the very least approved. It's not like Mozilla just said screw everyone... Let's become chrome. They are putting in the effort to make web extensions viable for even the more advanced uses.

They are making to where a version of TreeTabs are possible, this new API will enable functionality like in Chrome (see my other comment) but it will not be the same.

if I wanted Chrome style Vertical tabs I would have moved to chrome years ago

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by tciecka »

forapurpose wrote: post #21
jacquesm wrote: post #11

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I think I qualify as a poweruser by some standards, I tend to have 100's of tabs open and I've never left Firefox for speed reasons or others because it has held up extremely well over the years. My machine has a lot of RAM so maybe that's one reason things have been quick, and the main drive is an SSD. Is there anything specific about the 57 release that makes you feel caused the speed bottle-neck to disappear?

Here's an in-depth article on Firefox 57 and all the big changes: https://www.cnet.com/special-reports/mozilla-firefox-fights-...

This article is good but the annoying div that covers your mobile browser when you are in landscape, is not!

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by abritinthebay »

msla wrote: post #26
homero wrote: post #17

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What do you think of Opera becoming Chrome?

I don't know. I haven't used Opera since the 1990s. I fully expect most people will share my view.

most people will say "What's Opera?"

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by hathawsh »

milcron wrote: post #31
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #23

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How exactly does this work? The link mentions that it detects when Dev tools are opened and changes something?

Here are a few suggestions https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7798748/find-out-whether...

Wow, the 'id' getter strategy is devious and effective on Chrome.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7798748/find-out-whether...

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by retox »

timlyo wrote: post #62
abandonliberty wrote: post #46

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Firefox is maybe 80% of the way there. Just like in the IE Anitrust days, firefox suffers from sites that do not design with it in mind. Still better than Google Creep. Change to a search engine that protects privacy too.

Can you recommend a search engine? I'm trying DuckDuckGo, but it's just not as good.

I always hit DDG first then if the results aren't great just append the Google bang (!g) in the DDG search field to get an unbubbled goog search.

The DDG bang system is one of its best features in my mind. https://duckduckgo.com/bang

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by Propen »

timlyo wrote: post #62
abandonliberty wrote: post #46

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Firefox is maybe 80% of the way there. Just like in the IE Anitrust days, firefox suffers from sites that do not design with it in mind. Still better than Google Creep. Change to a search engine that protects privacy too.

Can you recommend a search engine? I'm trying DuckDuckGo, but it's just not as good.

https://www.startpage.com gives you Google results but proxied.
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