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Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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> Now, as a thought exercise: who do you think subsidizes VCs? Everyone who pays taxes on non-capital income.

How does the money get from taxes to VCs?

All tax breaks are government subsidies. Tax rates that are lower on one class of income than another are tax breaks.

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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No you could literally lease it from uber and work 20h a week at uber and 20h a week at lyft in it.

No, you can't. You can lease it from uber and drive 40h/week for uber and 60h/week from Lyft, but even that is a stretch. When you lease from a ridesharing company you are committing to that ridesharing company.

I am not saying that isn't the case, but the article made mo such indication. What is your source for this?

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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A house would have to be staggeringly overpriced for a 1% fixed loan with no down and no points to not make sense. Especially if they qualified for a prime rate. Hell, if I had that loan available I would totally take it and run with it.

Well, 1% loans never existed. They were just teaser rates. After a time period (say, 3 years), it would reset to awful ARM rates that the borrower couldn't possibly afford. The loan agent: "No problem, just refi before then."

So people were running away from loans that were about to get way more expensive? Who could have ever seen this coming?

IIRC you can't refi if your house value has dropped below your equity in it, meaning those people didn't really have a choice.

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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Taxi style use generally qualifies for shorter oil change intervals. Including that in the lease probably helps the vehicles stay maintained and resellable.

Naaah, that depends on quality of oil (and of course characteristics of the engine), as hinted it is a long standing dispute. A number of people (particularly in the US, but not only) change their oil every 3-5,000 miles for reasons like: - my father always changed oil every 3,000 (or 4,000 or 5,000) miles - a friend of mine who races changes it every 2,500 miles so changing it every double that is appropriate - the…

> A number of people (particularly in the US, but not only) change their oil every 3-5,000 miles for reasons like:

There's an even bigger reason it worked like that for so long. Car companies (American car companies) would print in their US manuals that you should change the oil every 3-5,000 miles, while printing in their European manuals - for the exact same car - that the oil change should be every 10,000 miles. I believe this was brought up on Car Talk once, for example. And they even went into a discussion of how it wasn't a units conversion problem - that the kilometers listed in the EU manual were equal to 10,000 miles, not that someone had just switched the units accidentally, etc.

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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Yet another example of VC ending up subsidizing America. We could just cut out the middleperson and go to basic income paid for by VCs.

Now, as a thought exercise: who do you think subsidizes VCs? (I.e. who are the biggest LPs) For people who don't want to look it up... Some of the biggest are pension funds! It's not just high net worth individuals or companies, it's also mom & pop retirement funds. https://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-biggest-investors-limited-...

It's a good start, for a basic income I mean. Not that I'm necessarily advocating we take away retirement funds, but a 5% return on pension assets distributed to the American people yearly would be more than $3000 per person. Include some other assets and we could move make UBI less basic and more income.

From 2009: >Banks have $96trillion in assets, investment funes hold $22trillion, insurance firms have $21trillion and pension funds $19 trillion.

http://www.wealthmanagement.com/blog/fun-fact-day-know-and-t...

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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post #59

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Now, as a thought exercise: who do you think subsidizes VCs? (I.e. who are the biggest LPs) For people who don't want to look it up... Some of the biggest are pension funds! It's not just high net worth individuals or companies, it's also mom & pop retirement funds. https://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-biggest-investors-limited-...

>Now, as a thought exercise: who do you think subsidizes VCs? (I.e. who are the biggest LPs) The Fed, with their policy of Quantitative Easing over the past 5 years.

The quantitative easing FUD on HN is getting pretty tiresome. It gets blamed for everything from VC subsidies to house prices and just about everything in between.

All three rounds of QE in the USA focused on mortgage-backed securities and Treasury securities. Are you suggesting there were a bunch of VCs who were neck deep in the MBS or CDS/CDO rackets in the mid 00's?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing#US_QE1.2C_...

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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So apparently it's the passengers who benefited in the end? That is, if the drivers who put lots of miles on the cars didn't make much off it, this was an indirect way of subsidizing lower rates.

Yup. Most of the story of ridesharing (and the sharing economy in general) is a massive shift of profit out of the hands of monopoly rentiers (cabbies (or more accurately, medallion owners), hotel owners) and into the pockets of consumers. We're all paying much less for car rides than we were a few years ago, but the basic underlying cost of providing those rides has not changed much at all.

All that crazy VC money benefits the users. Blue Apron is the same thing with food. I got free food, no plans to subscribe. Thanks for the meal!

(Not literally me, I never used Blue Apron, but a lot of people have)

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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>Now, as a thought exercise: who do you think subsidizes VCs? (I.e. who are the biggest LPs) The Fed, with their policy of Quantitative Easing over the past 5 years.

The quantitative easing FUD on HN is getting pretty tiresome. It gets blamed for everything from VC subsidies to house prices and just about everything in between. All three rounds of QE in the USA focused on mortgage-backed securities and Treasury securities. Are you suggesting there were a bunch of VCs who were neck deep in the MBS or CDS/CDO rackets in the mid 00's? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_e…

I'm not making any kind of judgement to the effects of QE policy, simply stating a fact.

Re: Uber Gets Run Over by Its Own Subprime Auto Leases

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Uggh read below (edited my 1st comment after fully reading the terrible details that will hugely and negatively affect a friend)

Also, wow my friend whose parent made him go bankrupt at 18 (put his name on deed of their house & didnt tell him) is going to lose his car he uses to make money and support/transport his family. Whoever votes me down has no heart. Uber is run by criminals!

How is that relevant?

And don't complain about votes, it is what it is.

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