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Re: Music Fandom Maps

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Post by coldtea »

CharlesW wrote: post #19
hammock wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're using the word album, you're referring to "owning" music, and appears you're unfamiliar with any new music from the last 20 years. Time to switch to spotify.

> You're using the word album, you're referring to "owning" music, and appears you're unfamiliar with any new music from the last 20 years. "Album" is just a collection, and applies whether or not you own it. The word is used all over Spotify, iTunes, and other online music services as an organizational unit. Fun fact: "Record album" used to mean a literal album — a bound collection of sleeves containing records. Thi…

>"Album" is just a collection, and applies whether or not you own it. The word is used all over Spotify, iTunes, and other online music services as an organizational unit.

Yes, but it's not that relevant today. They still exist, but youngsters mostly care for the hits.

Re: Music Fandom Maps

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Post by coldtea »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #21
excalibur wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in almost the same boat. (I can name some Linkin Park songs, but I'm not thrilled about it.) I have of course listened to plenty of new music in the past 20 years, but at this point I rarely pay attention to anything other than new releases from bands I already enjoy (and limited attention at that). Today I primarily listen to Pandora, which I naturally have tuned to my own tastes. While it's surely attributable…

Ehh if you look back a lot of the music from any decade is crap. It's just easier to forget.

>Ehh if you look back a lot of the music from any decade is crap.

Not necessarily true. Some decades stand out while others do not. Like the 60s for example vs the 90s. People in the 70s and 80s still cherished 60s icons, but few in the 00s and 10s care for 90s music (there's more interest in 80s music).

Re: Music Fandom Maps

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Post by no_gravity »

mfoy_ wrote: post #25
no_gravity wrote: post #13

Since I run https://www.music-map.com this naturally caught my eye. Unfortunately, there is no word on the methodology except that they did it with "the help of YouTube’s geocoded streaming data". Does anybody know what that is?

Why is it that on some maps the artist is very far away from another, but when you click on that artist the original one appears much closer? Is the scale relative? Is there any indicator how scaled up or down the relationships are?

It's a simulated annealing process that happens live in front of you.

Each artist has a desired distance to each other artist and is trying to get to a position that satisfies all these desired distances as good as possible.

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Post by smelterdemon »

samat wrote: post #2

Is this from some public YouTube data/API? Would really like to do this for other countries.

It doesn't seem like it. I just did a quick look through the YouTube data/API and it seems like even with Vevo's auth (it looks like these are all artists with videos on Vevo and you need the content/channel owner's authorization to get reports on channels/videos) the viewer location data is only available at a country or state/province level through the API.

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Post by anonu »

no_gravity wrote: post #13

Since I run https://www.music-map.com this naturally caught my eye. Unfortunately, there is no word on the methodology except that they did it with "the help of YouTube’s geocoded streaming data". Does anybody know what that is?

How does your music map work? Not too clear on how related artists are picked.

Also, I'm guessing that the nyt got some sort of special dataset from YouTube. Geo located streams are priveleged to the content owner, per the YouTube API.

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Post by timothy_yt »

no_gravity wrote: post #13

Since I run https://www.music-map.com this naturally caught my eye. Unfortunately, there is no word on the methodology except that they did it with "the help of YouTube’s geocoded streaming data". Does anybody know what that is?

I expect that the data is the same as what is found on the YouTube Artists site, which has music data for different geographic regions.

Go to https://artists.youtube.com/insights/location and click on "How is this calculated?".

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Post by santaclaus »

excalibur wrote: post #11
hammock wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're using the word album, you're referring to "owning" music, and appears you're unfamiliar with any new music from the last 20 years. Time to switch to spotify.

I'm in almost the same boat. (I can name some Linkin Park songs, but I'm not thrilled about it.) I have of course listened to plenty of new music in the past 20 years, but at this point I rarely pay attention to anything other than new releases from bands I already enjoy (and limited attention at that). Today I primarily listen to Pandora, which I naturally have tuned to my own tastes. While it's surely attributable…

> I have of course listened to plenty of new music in the past 20 years, but at this point I rarely pay attention to anything other than new releases from bands I already enjoy

What??? There is tons of interesting rock music coming out these days. 2017 has been a great (I would say possibly the best since maybe 2009) year for everything from indie pop to metal...

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