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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Wtf they actually sent him to jail for refusing to give customer data to the NSA. No wonder we hardly see any resistance nowadays.

There is popcorntime.io

I don't have it at work, but there's a Chrome extension that allows you to stream directly from a torrent, say, from The Pirate Bay.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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...a solution that has long been found in the music business. Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

This is why I love Google Play Music, you can basically upload any kind of personally-acquired (legally or not) music to the service and it will seamlessly and transparently integrate with the platform itself and let you stream them wherever and whenever like any other. They are stricter than Spotify with regional licenses unfortunately. I listen to a lot of Japanese artists that are on Spotify but not on GPM in Euro…

This feature should be talked about more. I love being able to supplement the service's catalog with music I own.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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I am not paying another $10 for another service. Enough is enough, I can live without Disney stuff. If I really "need it" I'll go to the library.

I'd like to agree, but i wonder if my kids will think the same. Disney owns a lot of things.

They don't need to see these movies every week for their development, and you're the parent, it's your decision to make. I'm really flabbergasted at how much every parent seem to value disney movies here (not only your comment), I (naively ?) thought that the people who read Hacker News were more anti-TV than this.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

> thanks Netflix for their growing self produced content that often has a quality not seen before s/often/rarely There are some good shows on Netflix, but they are in the minority, in my opinion. Tastes vary, of course. But a lot of their original programming is not so original, it just feels like filler content to increase the perceived value of the platform. For every good original show they make like House of Card…

I find them better than TV, pound for pound. For example, _Backstrom_ is a shitty House clone in many senses, but is a much better detective show than _Elementary_.

They have more feedback data and often great "production values" (i.e. they spent the extra money to make it nice). It doesn't always pay off (how stupid was _Marseille_, with Gerard Depardieu at his best acting chops in years and a political story that melts into family drama in three episodes flat?).

But having 100 Netflix shows and a random assortment of failed indie movies is not better than having 10 Netflix shows and a decent film catalog. Netflix pretty much snuck up on the less attentive of us by giving us more shows (hey, I basically stayed for Bojack Horseman) and taking away feature-length studio-produced movies.

I mean, who has the time to watch a full-length movie most days.

So I kind of feel cheated, but not enough to leave yet.

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You may want to look up the dictionary definition of stealing. Besides, it's still harmful to others and therefore wrong.

> it's still harmful to others and therefore wrong. If everything that was harmful to others would be seen as wrong we would live in a completely different world. Interestingly, people only make this connection for very few topics.

Sounds like a better world to me.

Anyway, it seems I hit a nerve. I used to be one of those piracy is not stealing people, back when I pirated content. Now that I pay for content I can look back at that person and understand that cognitive dissonance between my notion of myself as a good person and the fact that I was pirating content led me to consider piracy a good thing, or at the least not a bad thing.

Because really, what is being said with the semantics argument "piracy != stealing"? It is about how harmful piracy is, whether it really is as bad as stealing, and fundamentally whether or not we should have copyright at all. If we should have copyright, then we must have legal tools to enforce it, and piracy must be illegal and wrong. If we shouldn't have copyright, then piracy is a form of freedom fighting and should be encouraged.

My opinion on the matter is that we should have copyright, but that it should be more limited in duration, with stronger fair use exceptions (like the right to decrypt for the purpose of backup and archival). I don't care for the semantics argument. Call it piracy or call it stealing, it does not change what is being done: taking things without permission.

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Yes, but "piracy" seems to have stuck. "Stealing" I'd consider non-neutral. > Because the seller sets the price But I already paid. The seller is also asking to control the medium. That does not happen with everything else. In fact, there has been a creep toward control in the hands of distributers (e.g. Amazon deleting recalled ebooks off the devices they sold to you). This isn't just a case "seller has product, sel…

> But I already paid. The sellers set what is being sold too. They can set it to be e.g. "I sell the ability to see just 1 minute of my 10 hour movie, only in black and white, with mono sound for $1000, only once" if they so wish. > I'd consider a digital movie file to be one 'product', independent to whatever medium I choose to play it on; But the movie industry might advocate for a separate 'product' per medium. So…

> They can set it to be

Who decides? Politicians romanced by industry lobbyists? Why should the government/public bear the costs for legislating such things?

> So, isn't that to their discretion?

Now you are switching from "what is right" to "what is legal". The law is dictated by society, based on common morality.

> they show there's value to what the sellers are trying to sell.

And that value exists under a mandatory layer of DRM. And sometimes enforced by industry-sponsored legislation. Your assumption of value (or the power to boycott) ignore the monopolisation of media formats - When all computers contain a "DRM-chip" then "all I have to do" is boycott it? And what if they are mandatory by law - just oppose it? The general public is susceptible to targeted divide-and-conquer tactics, which doesn't result in a true representation or expression of public opinion at the mercy of industry motives.

> They could have boycotted the whole thing.

They did - they pirated. They didn't just boycott the technology, but the law as well - that shows that the public do not value those laws, and the laws were erected in contradiction to the will of the people. No?

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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What about the engineering of Netflix? I see lots of comments here about pricing and how content distribution in Hollywood is messed, etc. If Disney has acquired a streaming facility, how will they compare to how Netflix is engineered? Will they have apps, sub-accounts, lists of favorites, and be able to move from device to device and pick up where you left off? I have to guess that Disney's depth of content is prett…

I think it's safe to say you're underestimating Disney, they don't just knock out a kids film every year or so - they invest heavily in R&D and are pioneering many tech fields, animation, haptic feedback etc. They know how to do tech, ever heard of the magic band? https://www.wired.com/2015/03/disney-magicband/

I understand they know how to do tech. Magic bands and their backend systems only really have to handle the number of visitors at their parks and hotels. I think that is much smaller scale than engineering something to provide streaming on-demand movies to the globe (which should be their goal). For their original content, they won't have licensing restrictions like Netflix does so the only thing holding them back would likely be tech.

Also from the article, they aren't doing the tech. They bought stake in a company that does MLB and ESPN streaming.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

#648

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...a solution that has long been found in the music business. Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

This is why I love Google Play Music, you can basically upload any kind of personally-acquired (legally or not) music to the service and it will seamlessly and transparently integrate with the platform itself and let you stream them wherever and whenever like any other. They are stricter than Spotify with regional licenses unfortunately. I listen to a lot of Japanese artists that are on Spotify but not on GPM in Euro…

I love Google Play Music for exactly this reason: I have 20k songs uploaded and counting. No other service is offering anything close. Sadly the team seems to have recently scaled back on the "Your library" features in favor of radio (where they can insert ads), neutering the Instant Mix feature, removing the ability to make a "Feeling Lucky" mix of my uploaded music, and re-jiggering the interface to push Radio harder.

The thing is, the paid tier of GPM is really only for on-demand streaming of the music catalogue and removing ads in the radio. As an upload-only user, I really see no reason to pay money for a service that I am fully enjoying for free. If Google were to add back (and continue developing) the removed My Library features and decide to make a payment tier for use-cases like mine, I'd happily subscribe. Their focus on "your library anywhere, with extra features" is something that really stands out. I'd hate to see GPM turn into just another stream-what's-licensed service.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

This and I want as much content as possible in 4K/HDR, I’m really sick of the second tier streaming services being limited to highly compressed 1080p. If a service came along that truly had the TV and films I wanted with a preference for 4K content, I’d happily pay $40-$60AUD a month for it. Right now I subscribe to: - Netflix - Stan - Apple Music - Usenet related services - Audible - Plex Premium - Getflix content u…

I'm basically you, but for music.

The same way you like your video content to be high quality and have devices that allow you to enjoy such quality, I want to do the same for music. I have a high quality sound system and I want to listen to lossless music.

And subscription services are not even an option. Neither are the popular music selling services (iTunes / Google Play Music / Amazon). Luckily, I listen to a lot of electronic music, so I can pay ~$0.5 dollars more per song to get lossless quality on Beatport[0] and Juno[1]. My free estimate is that I was able to chase down ~30% of my music collection in lossless formats[2].

(0) https://www.beatport.com/

(1) Warning: website stuck in the 90s, both security-wise and design-wise http://www.junodownload.com/

(2) About a third of those are pirated because I couldn't find a way to purchase lossless versions.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

> Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. Except that the music business continues to shrink each year. The only reason there was a slight pause in this is because suddenly vinyl sales, of all things, took off. Somehow I don't think you are going to find many takers in the video industry for following a…

> Except that the music business continues to shrink each year.

What do you base this on? I googled a bit "music industry revenue" and only the opposite came up.

http://www.ifpi.org/news/IFPI-GLOBAL-MUSIC-REPORT-2017

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