Not a problem.
Do you use AirBnB? How about I claim there is a rally in any city you want to stay, or complain to AB you are hosting ebil racists and get you blacklisted?
Is it just a claim though? It seems quite factual
Airbnb is banning people trying to attend a white supremacist rally
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
People "in the middle" are not attending white power rallies.
But there are people in the middle that believe in the constitutional right to assembly and association.
Is someone depriving them of that right? All I see is a private company refusing to serve people that have broken an agreement they signed.
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#43Awesome. The idea that companies are apolitical can't die fast enough. No person-to-person platform can reach scale and be apolitical. You end up with companies like reddit and twitter who are too timid to make a stand about what their rules really are, and then waffle until they're forced to deal either with the PR nightmare of suddenly changing directions at scale, or the PR nightmare of allowing shitbags nobody wa…
> No person-to-person platform can reach scale and be apolitical. Companies that are too political can't scale at all, they put to many people off. Most overtly political business like feminist cafe's or LGBT bookshops die pretty quickly. In the tech world, if I could go back half a decade and know how political github would become I and many other people would have never signed up. > The idea that companies are apol…
When I stay at an Airbnb I'd like to know that my host isn't a KKK member. I'm sure most of Airbnb's customer's feel this way. I'd say that Airbnb's services are much more personal (in a person-to-person way) than coffee, movies or phones.
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#44The epidemic problem with bay area companies mixing their leftist politics and business is very disconcerting. They are alienating the majority population of the country, and are acting in the same manner as groups they claim to loathe. It is pure hypocrisy. Bay area companies enjoy diversity and inclusion, as long as it fits within their narrative.
They are not alienating the majority of the population. Conservatives are in the minority and they're also extremely old, so not really part of their audience.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> While I don't agree with White power rallies (which should go without saying), they have as much right to service as any other political group. So no right.
Except when we let bad actors use that exact same justification, then its ok for a christian baker to not make a cake for a gay wedding.
Gay isn't a political party or affiliation.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're alienating people like myself who are firmly on the left. The left used to care about socio-economics, but they've abandoned the white working class (and the working class of every minority) in favor of identity politics. The left used to care about everyone getting access to a decent education and healthcare instead of denigrating the poor as racist rednecks. The left used to be in favor of helping their nei…
Your imagined idea of the left is probably fine with you leaving if you are leaving because a group can't spread a message of death against black people. The high road against disagreeable speech is fine, but aligning yourself with groups that have killed based on race shouldn't allow you to have the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not disillusioned with the left because of this one incident, or any one incident. It's a trend I've noticed over the last few years. If I had to pick some single incidents then Brexit and the Trump election would stand out, the left now has utter contempt for the white working class.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except when we let bad actors use that exact same justification, then its ok for a christian baker to not make a cake for a gay wedding.
Gay isn't a political party or affiliation.
Gay marriage is a political position, they may not have been able to not serve someone because they were gay, but following the same reasoning as Airbnb here they should not have been compelled to make a gay wedding cake.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> While I don't agree with White power rallies (which should go without saying), they have as much right to service as any other political group. So no right.
Except when we let bad actors use that exact same justification, then its ok for a christian baker to not make a cake for a gay wedding.
We have protections- some based on the constitution, some based on individual state and federal laws, others based on common law precedent- that prevent discrimination against certain classes of individuals. In most cases those classes cover things that people have no control over (being born black isn't a choice, and neither is being born gay).
Being a bigot (which is what white supremacists literally are, so this is not just some hyperbolic statement) is not a protected class. No one has to let the klan show up in uniform to their restaurant, or let people use their platform to promote hate speech.
To be clear the click bade headline here really is awful- no one got banned for going to the rally, they got banned for hosting parties in the AirBNB rentals themselves. They used AirBNB to set up their hate events, and AirBNB put a stop to it.
Re: Airbnb is banning people trying to attend a white supremacist rally
#50Banning people because of their beliefs and customs is the opposite of what they tell their users to do their Nondiscrimination Policy:
... to engage with each other respectfully, even when views may not reflect their beliefs or upbringings. Airbnb’s members bring to our community an incredible diversity of background experiences, beliefs, and customs.
Words like that sound hostile and hateful to me nowadays. They're so often used to ostracize people who are already widely hated.