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"At Cal State, about 40% of freshmen each year are considered not ready for college-level work and required to take remedial classes that do not count toward their degrees." This is crazy to me. I'm not familiar with Cal State but do they just let anyone in who applies?
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It's amazing that there's such a thing as remedial classes in a university, but hey, how else are we going to get an adequately diverse student body?
Are you insinuating white people don't need remedial classes?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's amazing that there's such a thing as remedial classes in a university, but hey, how else are we going to get an adequately diverse student body?
Are you insinuating white people don't need remedial classes?
"At Cal State, about 40% of freshmen each year are considered not ready for college-level work and required to take remedial classes that do not count toward their degrees." This is crazy to me. I'm not familiar with Cal State but do they just let anyone in who applies?
It's amazing that there's such a thing as remedial classes in a university, but hey, how else are we going to get an adequately diverse student body?
The scary one to me is "field of study: education" : 41.1.
41% of future teachers need remedial education? Wonder how that stacks up to other countries.
"At Cal State, about 40% of freshmen each year are considered not ready for college-level work and required to take remedial classes that do not count toward their degrees." This is crazy to me. I'm not familiar with Cal State but do they just let anyone in who applies?
Cal State LA Accept rate: 68% UCLA Accept Rate: 18%
"At Cal State, about 40% of freshmen each year are considered not ready for college-level work and required to take remedial classes that do not count toward their degrees." This is crazy to me. I'm not familiar with Cal State but do they just let anyone in who applies?
Cal State LA Accept rate: 68% UCLA Accept Rate: 18%
UC Irvine Accept rate: 40.7%
Not sure where we're going with this though.
This is part of a long and slow change in the role of higher education. Previously, college was seen as being for people who academically deserved it. College was not for teaching high-school level concepts, it was for teaching advanced concepts to students who had already demonstrated some bona fides. Now, it is seen as an extension of high school; the onus is on the college to mold all comers into more educated and…
This seems to be the case with grad programs now too: doing the teaching that undergrad should have already done. Turtles all the way down.
The implicit message here seems to be, "let everyone pass through the system regardless of how qualified they actually are, but we'll have to lower the bar to keep grades and graduation rates high."
In a society where there seems to be an increasingly prominent discussion about the (ir)relevance of university degrees, it seems astonishing that they would hold such a position. It's debatable whether there was ever a time when having a university degree actually meant you had a very high likelihood of being "ready to move into the workforce, ready to move into graduate or professional school.", but this certainly doesn't help...
"At Cal State, about 40% of freshmen each year are considered not ready for college-level work and required to take remedial classes that do not count toward their degrees." This is crazy to me. I'm not familiar with Cal State but do they just let anyone in who applies?
No, it depends on the Cal state. There are two cal state that have high acceptance rate and have low grad rate. IIRC CalState Domigez have the highest acceptance rate.
But there are other very selective calstate such as cal poly.
Cal State (CSU) is an umbrella term for many california state universities across California excluding UC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California).
Examples are CSULB, CSUF, CSU-whatever...
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I had to take remedial English classes at a UC in my program ESL. So it's not amazing...
Examples for UC is UCI, UCLA, UCR, UCSD....