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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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I don't know why all these people behind these decisions don't just look at Gabe Newell and his simple statement - "Piracy is a service problem." Steam is a rampant success. You'd think people would catch on. Have the content, make it easy to access, make it easy to pay, and people will give you money hand over fist.

It's hard to convince someone of something when their income depends on them believing the opposite. Steam was successful because it combined advantages for producers and consumers with minimal changes to the business model. The old business model is people buy games that come on a CD or DVD in a small cardboard box for $30-50; the new business model is people buy games that finish downloading in a few hours for $30-…

Steam does more than that. It combines social elements (What are my friends playing now? Do they want to join me? What games do they recommend?) and lower price points as well (Summer Sale etc). I know lots of people that stopped pirating games because Steam was reliable (pirated games rarely are), took away the pain (mostly) of patching games and because if you are willing to wait, games are actually pretty cheap.

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> Long term, we'll probably wind up with a couple of major marketplaces that provide a UI that ties together content bundles that you've purchased from different distributors (who will actually serve up their catalogs). If you actually had something like that, it could know that you watched Cosmos on Netflix and then suggest physics lecture videos from Open Courseware. It could suggest YouTube videos alongside Hollyw…

I think your comments about the power are largely spot on - and bigger players can make a move for their own streaming services, but smaller ones will need to band together (not necessarily via an all-in-one subscription service like Netflix, but via some sort of content platform/store/whatever). That said, I think that the curation aspect is something that studios aren't overly concerned about - they just hate that…

"there are “only two ways to make money in business: One is to bundle; the other is unbundle.” - Jim Barksdale

https://hbr.org/2014/06/how-to-succeed-in-business-by-bundli...

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If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

what about Roku? I thought they have a central search where you can enter a movie or show name and then it shows you the results from your connected services like HBO, AmazonVideo, Netflix etc.

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Star Wars is already the movies, plus two animated series (Clone Wars and Rebels). You can look at the Marvel strategy to see where it could go, with multiple movies a year plus multiple tv/streaming series (Agents of Shield, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Legion, Defenders, Gifted, Inhumans, Punisher, Runaways). If all that Marvel content moves to Disney streaming, plus new Star Wars content, plus t…

Atleast 50% of the marvel content on your list are Netflix Owned Orginals, they can not pulled to Disney's new service. This would be Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, Punisher. It is highly unlikely Netflix would be stupid enough not to have those locked down. Agents of Shield I believe a ABC owned production, and would be governed under what ever terms Netflix and ABC have, Same with Inhuma…

Based on both an article from the announcement time [1] and the wiki page [2] the Defenders are jointly produced by Marvel TV and ABC Studios, merely distributed by Netflix. If that is true[3], then Disney (which owns Marvel and ABC) owns the rights to them, and once the current contract expires Netflix will no longer be able to distribute (stream) any of the Defenders series.

That would apply to Agents of Shield as well, which is also part of the Disney family.

[1]:http://deadline.com/2013/11/disney-netflix-marvel-series-629... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Jones_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Cage_(TV_series) [3]: You would need a lawyer to examine contract language to be 100% sure, but Disney has armies of really good lawyers and understands the importance of IP better than anyone else on the planet, so it is extremely plausible.

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I think this is a terrible idea, but time will tell. As a former Hulu employee, I can say that the media rights business is a mess. It took us (and Netflix) a very long time to convince media companies that the future is streaming. Now that they understand that, it's natural that they want to control all the revenue streams for their content. What they fail to understand is that online streaming is not easy. Netflix…

They are pushing forward with this by purchasing a controlling stake in BAMTech, which is the streaming tech company behind HBO Now, MLB and others.

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Some kind of surprising comments in this thread. I think many people (obviously not everyone here judging by what I'm reading) would happily pay for a Disney-only service, maybe upwards of $20-$30 per month. Why? Its the mecca for family entertainment. They have Pixar, Disney Animation, Star Wars and Marvel, plus all of their Disney television content from years past. Its a quality brand people trust. Much different…

Right, and people on here also seem to forget that they own ESPN. There are seemingly endless ways that Disney could package their content in ways that it would appeal to customers in every segment. Sell ESPN with SEC Network, ESPN 2, and all of its networks as a standalone service to sports fans who don't care about the rest of Disney's offerings. Sell Disney's older catalog plus kids shows on demand for people who…

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People forget that Disney owns a lot of must-see content: For example, here is the list of top grossing movies of 2016 http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074920894/ Disney had the following films 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Rogue One 3. Finding Dory 4. Zootopia 5. The Jungle Book 11. Doctor Strange 12. Moana 19. Alice Through the Looking Glass For 2017 so far ( http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-…

Those are all movies. Streaming services get traction from episodic series and live shows. If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

my kids dont even watch that much tv, but if it was only the entire disney movie lineup - including new releases and old releases - but not including star wars or marvel or any tv shows, id pay $10/month without blinking. at $15 id still probably do it.

edit to add: not having to handle media is a big deal - dvds get scratched _very_ easily - plus being able to access the content on an old iphone or ipad wherever you are is worth its weight in gold.

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A large part why Spotify, Netflix and Steam are so successful is because they are more convenient than piracy, and they have most of the content you would want. When you again have the choice to either check half a dozen services to see who has the show you want, or to go one-stop shopping at the pirate bay, guess what a lot of people will do.

Speaking of that, it's curious that there isn't a piracy version of Steam that integrates with tor, torrents and such. How bizarre and awesome (in the way stuxnet was awesome tech but not exactly well meant one) of a concept would that be? And the outcry of the triple A industry, wow. There is LaunchBox for emulators and DOSBox but that's it.. and it just downloads the metadata, not the emulators and ROMs themselves.

But there is piracy version for streaming content. In CIS region there is an app for android(incl. TV) that allow You to watch literally any tv/show/movie/animation. Quality is shitty sometimes, but free is free

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Netflix's streaming library size has become absurdly small for people like me who: - Want to stream movies (not TV) - Want general movies as opposed to Netflix content Earlier this year, Netflix' DVD division released their Top 10 most popular movie rentals. Only one of the 10 was available on Netflix streaming.

Well, the top 10 thing makes sense - why get the DVD if you can just stream. I think there's sampling bias there.

I do however agree that their streaming movie collection is bad.

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