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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

busterarm wrote: post #244
true_religion wrote: post #196

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In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection. I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services. After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it an…

> After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I put my elderly mother on my netflix account with her own profile and she couldn't be happier. I saved her a bunch of money that she'd otherwise be spending on cable and as a bonus she's not watching 24hr news that's making her afraid all day. For something that I occasionally will use but she always uses,…

I'm reading your comment in Buster Bluth's voice and it is great.

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Post by rodgerd »

joezydeco wrote: post #107
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #93

People forget that Disney owns a lot of must-see content: For example, here is the list of top grossing movies of 2016 http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074920894/ Disney had the following films 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Rogue One 3. Finding Dory 4. Zootopia 5. The Jungle Book 11. Doctor Strange 12. Moana 19. Alice Through the Looking Glass For 2017 so far ( http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-…

Those are all movies. Streaming services get traction from episodic series and live shows. If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

Well, boy it's a shame doesn't have everything from Barbie and Tinkerbell to Star vs the Forces of Evil and the endless sitcoms and such that launch teen actor and singers' careers.

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Post by hkmurakami »

ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #267
hkmurakami wrote: post #229

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Disney has a sprawling cable content network.

Exactly. That's why they HAD to make this move. The Disney channel is getting hurt badly by families cutting the cord. Disney streaming will be just as much about "The Mickey Mouse Club" as it is about big budget blockbusters. I have a 2 year old. I will be wherever the Disney content is, and they could charge me basically whatever price they want.

Absolutely. And with some data suggesting that a very significant part of youtube playtime is through small children on their mothers' accounts, such content availability will have strong ripple effects.

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RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #93

People forget that Disney owns a lot of must-see content: For example, here is the list of top grossing movies of 2016 http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074920894/ Disney had the following films 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Rogue One 3. Finding Dory 4. Zootopia 5. The Jungle Book 11. Doctor Strange 12. Moana 19. Alice Through the Looking Glass For 2017 so far ( http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-…

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Post by diogenescynic »

jacobsenscott wrote: post #283
dpark wrote: post #265

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And they didn't have enough subscribers to justify that model. I wonder what they think has changed. Maybe on demand Disney movies are valuable enough to enough parents to justify this?

I bet star wars changed this.

Marvel and Star Wars both.

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Post by kodablah »

mrisoli wrote: post #200
kodablah wrote: post #28

> The ESPN-branded multi-sport service [...] including Major League Baseball, National Hockey League [...] Missing NBA and NFL and subject to regional restrictions and Fox Sports ownership. Any non-cable package that doesn't offer regional broadcasts of ANY of the major 4 is a weak one. Until the leagues stop with regional restrictions, these sports packages will be hamstrung and never sell on their own. But why woul…

I am very curious how much money the broadcasters are making with this strategy, and how much money the leagues or ESPN are letting on the table by just allowing this to happen. Football(soccer for Americans) is definitely the worst offender here, I know it is much more difficult to package and sell these streams because leagues are so fragmented, but if FIFA could use their weight to pull it off it would be gigantic…

If you have a decent cable package in the states, you can stream EPL (NBC sports app), Bundesliga, UEFA, (Fox Sports 2 Go for last 2), English Championship, La Liga, Serie A, and Ligue 1 (last 4 Bein Sports). Granted I haven't confirmed whether they carry all games.

But those are perfect examples of regional restrictions because that's US only.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

zapt02 wrote: post #202
electriclove wrote: post #148

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Upwords of $30/month? That is way too expensive!

I said western-world families. That amount is chump change to most of them, considering how expensive it is to raise a family. Nostalgia + keeping their kids busy = priceless.

Are you raising a family on median income in The West?

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

komali2 wrote: post #173
ianai wrote: post #62

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We're looking at a future where you have to purchase access to content and delivery of that content piecewise. Prices will definitely increase largely for the same content and convenience. And at some point society's probably going to crack down on piracy as though it were a logical extension of hacking.

Society has been trying and failing to crack down on piracy since data could be transmitted. I don't think it will ever be possible. Phones cameras are only getting better, how can you ever stop someone from recording something in the theater and passing it around in meatspace? Good quality torrents might become harder to get, but piracy is going nowhere.

>And at some point society's probably going to crack down on piracy Do you really think it's society [at large] that's pushing this?

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Post by amag »

nxsynonym wrote: post #69
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

> The biggest deterrent, for me at least, is not the price but the need to switch platforms.

Agree, especially when most doesn't work nearly as well as Netflix. I prefer to use the TV app and the horrible user experience I had with HBO (for instance) made me quickly stop using it.

For a streaming company user engagement should be taken very seriously, but it seems that most studio-turn-streaming-company miss this. They think content is everything because that's what a studio is about. But content doesn't matter if I can't stream it easily and many studios are so over-protective of their content that they forget about usability.

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