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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by satysin »

koolba wrote: post #235
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

$10/month for every Disney cartoon movie alone would immediately get millions of families to sign up. That's easily worth not fiddling with disks. But that's only if the catalog actually has that content. If they do the digital equivalent of the Disney DVD vault then yes screw that.

Agreed. For around £8/month I would probably get Disney's streaming service but only if it actually has all of Disney's content available to watch. If they do something stupid like only 5 Disney classics at a time then sorry but they can fuck off.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

joezydeco wrote: post #107
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #93

People forget that Disney owns a lot of must-see content: For example, here is the list of top grossing movies of 2016 http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074920894/ Disney had the following films 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Rogue One 3. Finding Dory 4. Zootopia 5. The Jungle Book 11. Doctor Strange 12. Moana 19. Alice Through the Looking Glass For 2017 so far ( http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-…

Those are all movies. Streaming services get traction from episodic series and live shows. If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

Translation: I'm not a parent... or at least, I'm not a typical one

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by vlunkr »

notatoad wrote: post #134
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Netflix already doesn't have that big of a library, and it's been steadily shrinking. But if it comes down to it, i'm willing to pay for $10/mo to netflix purely for their original content. I'd also pay for HBO Now if they would let me (I'm in canada). I don't think there's any other company putting out enough quality first-party content that i'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for their service. maybe a couple bucks…

Relative to every other steaming service they have a huge library, I'm not sure what you mean.

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Post by busterarm »

true_religion wrote: post #196
notatoad wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix already doesn't have that big of a library, and it's been steadily shrinking. But if it comes down to it, i'm willing to pay for $10/mo to netflix purely for their original content. I'd also pay for HBO Now if they would let me (I'm in canada). I don't think there's any other company putting out enough quality first-party content that i'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for their service. maybe a couple bucks…

In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection. I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services. After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it an…

> After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness.

I put my elderly mother on my netflix account with her own profile and she couldn't be happier. I saved her a bunch of money that she'd otherwise be spending on cable and as a bonus she's not watching 24hr news that's making her afraid all day. For something that I occasionally will use but she always uses, $10/mo is _cheap_.

Now if I could only nudge her towards some of the Korean soap operas that they have now...

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Post by NAHWheatCracker »

nkkollaw wrote: post #217
fooey wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've completely given up on trying to stream movies I also completely refuse to buy physical media too, so the end result is that I basically never watch movies at home any more unless I go to the effort of torrenting it

Try Chromecast. It costs almost nothing and it's absolutely awesome.

I love my Chromecast, but isn't this discussion about accessing content?

If the content owners don't let you access their content (or they make it a burden to access it by requiring a subscription for another service) it doesn't matter if you have a device that can output an HDMI signal.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

JigglyGigalo wrote: post #143
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Think about it from Disney'd point of view. Netlfix is becoming a content creator. They're becoming "a Disney" type of company. Disney has no choice but to stream direct. That is they way all video content is all going.

I can't imagine it was anything other than Disney looking at the numbers and saying "we're generating this revenue for the streaming companies, but only taking this much in profit; if we run or own distribution we can overcharge more, give shorter rentals, block content when we want to push things in other distribution channels .. and the only cost will be more money for the customer paying for redundant distribution means, more money from the customer to pay for our increased profit, and more inconvenience".

I imagine at that point the meeting chairman said "fuck the customers, show me the money" whilst chugging a glass of bolli and sucking on a fat cigar.

... But I may be getting a little imaginative there.

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Post by mastazi »

Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

> I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services.

Don't you like to have many options to choose from? You don't "have to" sign up for all of them, it's your choice.

> It's almost asking to drive people to torrents.

I am a Netflix subscriber but there are a couple of shows that I watch and are on competing streaming services, however I didn't want to subscribe to all of them. So I rented them on Google Play and/or iTunes.

I know it sounds incredible but there are ways to consume content without breaking the law.

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Post by tapsboy »

Considering that distribution in future is all going to be digital, this makes sense at many levels for Disney.

If you see the changing landscape, other big studios already have distribution (NBC has Comcast, Time Warner is trying to merge with AT&T). Viacom, CBS and Fox will all make some moves soon. I expect traditional TV to fully transition to digital ecosystems by 2020 as publishing & music did before.

The competition for a user's time and attention watching video now cuts across verticals from the likes of NYT/WSJ/WaPo to Vox/AOL/Yahoo to Facebook/Snapchat/Instagram to Youtube/Netflix/Hulu to streaming services from TV Networks & Cable Companies. There will be a lot of consolidation in the process.

Disclaimer: I work for a Disney subsidiary

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by bearcobra »

nitwit005 wrote: post #218
bearcobra wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's what your looking for, it seems like you can get it from dozens of places like iTunes, Google Play, Amazon Video, etc.

The problem tends to be the pricing. The per-episode and seasonal purchase rates often seem higher than going and buying a DVD, probably due to the store taking a cut. The streaming services, or even cable TV, are much cheaper if you make a lot of use of them. The hope always seems to be to operate like a gym, where there are people paying but almost never showing up.

To me, a debate about pricing is totally separate from the arguments about the availability of options to buy content. You can

1) Buy individual episodes

2) Buy individual season

3) Buy individual channels (FX, HBO, with ESPN and Disney coming soon and more and more networks offering this option)

4) Buy bundles of content (cable, Netflix, Hulu, etc.)

Availability windows also seem to be designed to match consumers demands, you'll pay more to get copies of episodes right away vs waiting a season or two to buy them.

Again, I think it's fair to find the prices to be greater than what each individual is willing to pay, but I don't think the actual options are lacking in the same way they were 3 years ago.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by tapsboy »

Considering that distribution in future is all going to be digital, this makes sense at many levels for Disney.

If you see the changing landscape, other big studios already have distribution (NBC has Comcast, Time Warner is trying to merge with AT&T). Viacom, CBS and Fox will all make some moves soon. I expect traditional TV to fully transition to digital ecosystems by 2020 as publishing & music did before.

The competition for a user's time and attention watching video now cuts across verticals from the likes of NYT/WSJ/WaPo to Vox/AOL/Yahoo to Facebook/Snapchat/Instagram to Youtube/Netflix/Hulu to streaming services from TV Networks & Cable Companies. There will be a lot of consolidation in the process.

Disclaimer: I work for a Disney subsidiary

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