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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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marssaxman wrote: post #122
codazoda wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We asked for a la carte TV pricing. I think this is what it looks like. I'll probably pay for a few channels and forget the rest.

How is this "a la carte"? I don't care about channels; I'd be willing to pay a couple bucks to watch some specific movie or TV show, but "you have to sign up for a monthly subscription to some corporation's arbitrary bundle of media offerings in order to get access to the one or two things you actually want to see" is pretty much the opposite of "a la carte TV".

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Post by overcast »

j_s wrote: post #178
px1999 wrote: post #86

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Long term, we'll probably wind up with a couple of major marketplaces that provide a UI that ties together content bundles that you've purchased from different distributors (who will actually serve up their catalogs). It's a bit depressing how similar that sounds to how cable networks work. Or platform specific app stores.

https://www.justwatch.com/ by HN user endymi0n; Show HN (2015) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9005641 "largest streaming search engine in the world [...] with around 12 million unique visits per month" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14842083 -- http://www.canistream.it/ by former HN user SeyelentEco

justwatch doesn't do anything but aggregate affiliate links.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by majormajor »

Buttons840 wrote: post #133
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

I've been wanting to build a PC to host my home media, and I wonder if there would be a market for a device like this: I'd like to have a small computer where I can insert a DVD and press one button and walk away (and latter remove the disk), and then the movie is available to stream from my small media computer to my home network. It could look up the right metadata online, or you might pay a very small amount for a…

You could also just buy* seasons on Amazon/iTunes/Google/whatever of only the shows you want and stream them to the store app on whatever devices you have. If you're only interested in a few shows a year than that gets you potentially price-competitive with Netflix+whatever else, and you don't have to worry about when Netflix loses the rights.

* the common complaint here is DRM, long-term-ownership compared to DVD, but the flip side is much better resolution than DVD and if the competition is streaming services, it puts you in much more control than that.

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Post by spinlock »

nxsynonym wrote: post #69
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

I have an Apple TV and I have to switch from it to the TV to get Amazon because Apple and Amazon won't play nice together.

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Post by true_religion »

notatoad wrote: post #134
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Netflix already doesn't have that big of a library, and it's been steadily shrinking. But if it comes down to it, i'm willing to pay for $10/mo to netflix purely for their original content. I'd also pay for HBO Now if they would let me (I'm in canada). I don't think there's any other company putting out enough quality first-party content that i'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for their service. maybe a couple bucks…

In 2004, my cable budget was $160/mo in a bundle. Now it is $100/mo for a half-gigabit internet connection.

I'd have to sign up for 6 different services in order to add up to my previous budget. So far... its' not come to that point, but if it does I'll be happy to cut out some services.

After all do I really need Netflix? I don't watch if for months at a time, and only keep it out of laziness. I'll happily cut it and swap in Disney for that time period of budget constraints become an issue.

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Post by FRex »

wongarsu wrote: post #37

A large part why Spotify, Netflix and Steam are so successful is because they are more convenient than piracy, and they have most of the content you would want. When you again have the choice to either check half a dozen services to see who has the show you want, or to go one-stop shopping at the pirate bay, guess what a lot of people will do.

Speaking of that, it's curious that there isn't a piracy version of Steam that integrates with tor, torrents and such.

How bizarre and awesome (in the way stuxnet was awesome tech but not exactly well meant one) of a concept would that be? And the outcry of the triple A industry, wow.

There is LaunchBox for emulators and DOSBox but that's it.. and it just downloads the metadata, not the emulators and ROMs themselves.

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Post by Berobero »

joezydeco wrote: post #107
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #93

People forget that Disney owns a lot of must-see content: For example, here is the list of top grossing movies of 2016 http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074920894/ Disney had the following films 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Rogue One 3. Finding Dory 4. Zootopia 5. The Jungle Book 11. Doctor Strange 12. Moana 19. Alice Through the Looking Glass For 2017 so far ( http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-…

Those are all movies. Streaming services get traction from episodic series and live shows. If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

I think you greatly underestimate two things:

1. The shear volume of non-film media, particularly shows directed at kids and pre-teens, that Disney controls

2. The ability of kids to literally watch the same thing over and over again

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Post by eldavido »

notatoad wrote: post #134
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Netflix already doesn't have that big of a library, and it's been steadily shrinking. But if it comes down to it, i'm willing to pay for $10/mo to netflix purely for their original content. I'd also pay for HBO Now if they would let me (I'm in canada). I don't think there's any other company putting out enough quality first-party content that i'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for their service. maybe a couple bucks…

More broadly, Netflix has had 3 distinct business models in its lifetime: disk rental, streaming other peoples' content, and now, streaming its own first-party content.

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Post by mrisoli »

kodablah wrote: post #28

> The ESPN-branded multi-sport service [...] including Major League Baseball, National Hockey League [...] Missing NBA and NFL and subject to regional restrictions and Fox Sports ownership. Any non-cable package that doesn't offer regional broadcasts of ANY of the major 4 is a weak one. Until the leagues stop with regional restrictions, these sports packages will be hamstrung and never sell on their own. But why woul…

I am very curious how much money the broadcasters are making with this strategy, and how much money the leagues or ESPN are letting on the table by just allowing this to happen.

Football(soccer for Americans) is definitely the worst offender here, I know it is much more difficult to package and sell these streams because leagues are so fragmented, but if FIFA could use their weight to pull it off it would be gigantic(hell, even if it's just UEFA).

As an expat, I find it absurd it is impossible to get a legal stream to watch my home league, even UEFA champions league streaming is hard enough to get.

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