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Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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Surely, they'll all realize that it takes courage to embrace the office layout of the future?

Jokes aside, this was a problem five years in the making, and as far as I can tell there was no secrecy about the plan. I'm surprised the complaints are only coming now.

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I hope they win, open offices are the stupidest thing since cubicles.

And yet I would personally prefer cubicles to an open office plan. At least cubicles provide visual interruptions, reduce the overall noise, and provide a space for you to personalize.

Cubicles may be better than open space but offices are still much better

Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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It all seems so backwards. Instead of having collaborative working spaces with private rooms for meetings, doesn't it make more sense to have private rooms for working and collaborative meeting spaces?

I suspect the thought process is something like, "Collaboration makes the office more productive. Therefore, if we force the employees to collaborate all the time, we can maximize productivity!"

Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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Man, I remember in college when we would be working long hours in the library on a computer lined up in a row of computers. Every one would be intensely working on what they needed to. Sometimes two would work together. This was especially true before presentations when we were trying to put our stuff together. It was neat. It was collaborative. It was fun. And we were happy.

Open floor plan is reminiscent of those days, but it isn't working. And I cannot figure out why. What's missing? Intensity? Work? Stress? Team building therapy? Or just trust? Whatever it is I hope we figure it out.

Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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I have heard that open office plans are justified by decreased cost. Does it make sense that they would build a 5 billion dollar office with open floor plans? I suppose given that large price tag there would be motivation to cut costs that way other than the fact that the open office plan as a fad still exists.

Maybe the justification is density, not cost. The floor space of the spaceship was finalized years ago and maybe Apple is trying to shoehorn more employees into that space.

Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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Hopefully, more and more companies experience backlash from this. It is a horrific mistake to add distracting elements to most programmers environments. Even worse, in my open office plan, they put our very loud finance group right next to us. Absolutely no thought of noise management was considered, except for putting in horrible "white noise" generators that set off my tinnitus Thankfully, my direct manager is understanding and let me turn off the one directly over my head. And by directly over my head, I mean about 4 feet.

Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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It all seems so backwards. Instead of having collaborative working spaces with private rooms for meetings, doesn't it make more sense to have private rooms for working and collaborative meeting spaces?

I suspect the thought process is something like, "Collaboration makes the office more productive. Therefore, if we force the employees to collaborate all the time , we can maximize productivity!"

My company moved engineering into the same open office as sales and customer support, we can collaborate with everyone all the time!

Definitely a negative to productivity on my individual work because it's so much noisier in here.

Re: Apple staffers reportedly rebelling against open office plan

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Bench seating, work tables and open cubicles. Apple? Famous for not letting their developers talk to people outside the project?

Oh, upper management is even more paranoid than that. It's what made this such a strange move for the company.
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