Google employee fired over diversity row considers legal action
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#2Reasonably well written article. I heard a similar news item on BBC's World Service. Is it something about Britain/Europe news which lends some perspective or is it a function of literal distance?
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#3Regardless of this episode, the true spirit of tehcnological companies lays written in that 10 page memo. Successful techies are individualists, egoists, cold and full of testosterone. Firing that guy is just a PR stunt, specially to put a discipline of silence around the issue, and the result of a few hysterical women that do not matter anyway.
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#4Question to everyone.
1: Do you think forced diversity is a good thing? Is it an attack on those with ability?
2: Is this a variant of the PC movement? Do you consider this an attack on free speech?
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#5Question to everyone. 1: Do you think forced diversity is a good thing? Is it an attack on those with ability? 2: Is this a variant of the PC movement? Do you consider this an attack on free speech?
1. No
2. Not an attack, but there will be less jobs for those candidates with ability since companies would have to give up spots to hit their diversity quota
3. Yes
Re: Google employee fired over diversity row considers legal action
#6Reasonably well written article. I heard a similar news item on BBC's World Service. Is it something about Britain/Europe news which lends some perspective or is it a function of literal distance?
You're kidding right? It's full of mischaracterizations.
>suggesting women are less suited to certain roles in tech and leadership
Not true. Saying women are less suited is saying all women are less suited.
What he said is that when comparing the distribution curve of women to men, the average woman may be less suited than the average man.
That's different. It means that the top 10% of women may be far better suited to leadership in tech than the bottom 85% of men.
>caused outrage when he circulated a manifesto at the weekend complaining about Google’s “ideological echo chamber”
He wrote a memo. It was posted on an internal forum. He wasn't complaining, he was suggesting alternatives to discrimination. Why are they making it sound like he was distributing fliers all over campus?
Re: Google employee fired over diversity row considers legal action
#7Regardless of this episode, the true spirit of tehcnological companies lays written in that 10 page memo. Successful techies are individualists, egoists, cold and full of testosterone. Firing that guy is just a PR stunt, specially to put a discipline of silence around the issue, and the result of a few hysterical women that do not matter anyway.
Are you in the industry and successful? Do you consider yourself as such; egoist, cold and full of testosterone.
I have seen a lot of successful people, very few fits the description.
Re: Google employee fired over diversity row considers legal action
#8Regardless of this episode, the true spirit of tehcnological companies lays written in that 10 page memo. Successful techies are individualists, egoists, cold and full of testosterone. Firing that guy is just a PR stunt, specially to put a discipline of silence around the issue, and the result of a few hysterical women that do not matter anyway.
That guy may or may not be a misogynist, but you certainly are.
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#9Question to everyone. 1: Do you think forced diversity is a good thing? Is it an attack on those with ability? 2: Is this a variant of the PC movement? Do you consider this an attack on free speech?
1.) It's not so simple. There are social mechanisms at play that will lead to a segregated workforce if we do not combat them. In today's world it takes effort to maintain a diverse workforce. As as to whether its a good thing, I think that a) diversity of people means diversity of ideas and solutions, and b) diversity in workers helps combat some of the social mechanisms that would keep the workforce segregated. It is also of the uptmost importance to note that raising diversity in the workforce is orthogonal to compromising on the quality of workers.
2.) Yonatan Zunger's response to the manifesto has been highly shared, but I think his essay "Tolerance is not a moral precept" is an important framework when talking about this issue. The basic premise is that by adopting tolerance as a social norm, we are not agreeing to also tolerate intolerance. Companies like Google have set out the edict that all their workers should be treated with respect. By questioning the inate abilities of a large portion of the workforce, the manifesto's author is doing great damage to the attitude of tolerance that allows Google to operate. He isn't be prosecuted by the government, but he is necessarily being expunged from an enviromenent that he is incompatible with.
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#10Great, let him go to court and defend his thesis. Why don't all the sexist guys get together and form your own organization and let's see how you survive in this world?