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Re: Talos II

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Post by Kiro »

CrystalGamma wrote: post #21

I applaud them for pricing the board at around $2000 (though with the CPUs it's obviously more expensive). This sits squarely within my budget for a high-performance and trustworthy workstation like this (even accounting for taxes). However I would also have payed for faster CPUs (up to ~$1000 each for an 8- or 12-core processor). Does anyone know if all POWER9 processors fit into that socket, and if yes, if there is…

> Like many fellow Europeans I don't have a credit card, so if that is the only way to pay, I'd have to jump through a lot of hoops to buy this.

Why would that be the only option? Never seen a shop accept credit cards only. I only have a debit card and have never had any problems.

Re: Talos II

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Post by pedrocr »

madez wrote: post #32
pedrocr wrote: post #25

>Like many fellow Europeans I don't have a credit card, so if that is the only way to pay, I'd have to jump through a lot of hoops to buy this. I find this surprising. At least in Portugal it's now common to buy stuff online with a credit card, either with an actual card or with one of those simple services the bank provides where they generate a virtual card on demand for you to use for a single purchase.

Why do you find it surprising? They cost money and provide little benefit (for me). Some vendors accept them but charge extra for it, which I consider fair.

>Why do you find it surprising? They cost money and provide little benefit (for me).

Because credit cards provide a valuable service that other cards don't and I see everyone around me using them because of it, either directly or through a virtual credit card service. The biggest advantages are wide acceptance throughout the world and the ability to arbitrate disputes.

>Some vendors accept them but charge extra for it, which I consider fair.

This is usually against the merchant rules and I've never seen anyone do it.

Re: Talos II

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Post by pedrocr »

madez wrote: post #40
anoother wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure about the rest of Europe, but in the UK most credit cards don't cost money. Unless you don't pay your bills, of course. But direct debit takes care of that.

They surely do cost money, but you pay it indirectly. Somebody first pays the fees and the card itself, and ultimately you are going to pay. There are alternatives that are cheaper and work just as fine. Thankfully not every country is already majorly infected by credit cards.

>There are alternatives that are cheaper and work just as fine.

Do you have an example? Debit cards have very similar cost structures, cash is more expensive to handle.

Re: Talos II

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Post by samstave »

vectorEQ wrote: post #6

Talos™ II drives the state of the art of secure computing forward. Talos™ II gives you — and only you — full control of your machine's security. Rest assured knowing that only your authorized software and firmware are running via POWER9's secure boot features. Don't trust us? Look at the secure boot sources yourself — and modify them as you wish. That's the power of Talos™ II. That is fkin nice to be honest. There is…

I just learned about laptops from a Bay Area company yesterday: purism

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Coreboot based laptops...

Re: Talos II

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Post by lmm »

madez wrote: post #40
anoother wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure about the rest of Europe, but in the UK most credit cards don't cost money. Unless you don't pay your bills, of course. But direct debit takes care of that.

They surely do cost money, but you pay it indirectly. Somebody first pays the fees and the card itself, and ultimately you are going to pay. There are alternatives that are cheaper and work just as fine. Thankfully not every country is already majorly infected by credit cards.

Either the merchant agreements forbid charging credit card fees, or it's just a norm that our businesses have adopted (over here we strongly believe in the advertised price being the actual price - we don't have tax-added-on-afterwards or mail-in rebates like in the US), but either way you very rarely get charged a fee directly. Some places will have a minimum spend to pay by credit card, and low-end shops won't accept Amex because their fees are higher, but for most the card fees are built into the prices that you pay even if you're paying cash.

Re: Talos II

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Post by onli »

To set on PCI-E 4.0 is a mistake. PCI-E 5.0 is right around the corner. It might be backward compatible, but if you buy it for that it would be better to wait.

Re: Talos II

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Post by bryanlarsen »

onli wrote: post #46

To set on PCI-E 4.0 is a mistake. PCI-E 5.0 is right around the corner. It might be backward compatible, but if you buy it for that it would be better to wait.

ETA for PCI-E 5.0 in consumer equipment is 2020 or 2021. That's actually fairly quick considering that PCIE 4.0 is just starting to trickle out, but I wouldn't call that "right around the corner". I do expect many providers to skip PCI-E 4.0. OTOH the delta from 4 to 5 is a lot smaller than the delta from 3 to 4, so running PCI-E 4 is also a good mechanism for getting a head start on 5.

Re: Talos II

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Post by GordonS »

abrowne wrote: post #36
haneefmubarak wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm stateside, but I've had lots of success paying for things online and at places in person that want a credit card by just giving my debit card (and not saying anything, ofc). That being said, YMMV.

If you're in the US, your debit card is likely a Visa or Mastercard debit card.

I'm in the UK, and every debit card I've ever had has been a Visa or Mastercard

Re: Talos II

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Post by [deleted] »

CrystalGamma wrote: post #21

I applaud them for pricing the board at around $2000 (though with the CPUs it's obviously more expensive). This sits squarely within my budget for a high-performance and trustworthy workstation like this (even accounting for taxes). However I would also have payed for faster CPUs (up to ~$1000 each for an 8- or 12-core processor). Does anyone know if all POWER9 processors fit into that socket, and if yes, if there is…

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Re: Talos II

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Post by striking »

orbifold wrote: post #19
bitL wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's definitely nice! Any other advantages?

The Power9 should be more performant than EPYC/ThreadRipper and CAPI gives you higher memory bandwidth to a GPU.

Are there any benchmarks that I can look at for this?
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