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The cognitive differences between men and women

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Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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For thousands of years men have run society and women have been homemakers. We are biologically wired with those roles in our DNA. Today we are trying to upset those roles, and It causes a huge amount of psychological problems. Women are not designed to run their own lives. They are designed to follow the significant man in Their life. Today since they are expected to be like men, they are completely overwhelmed and are now doped up on drugs like xanax to cope.

More freedom is not always a good thing. Studies show that with more rights women are actually less happy today than they were 40 years ago.

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

#102

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Actually, there is some research showing women are equally physically violent in domestic situations. Men just go to jail more. But, anyone will point out that if black men go to jail more than white men, it means there is a systemic bias against black men.

According to Dr. B. H. Hoff's (2012, National Study CDC/DOJ) Report on the National Violence Against Women Survey (notice there's no report on violence against men as anyone who spent money on such research would never be funded again - that's not an assumption, it's spelled out in print), 42.3% of victimized men, over 2 million men, are subjected to "severe physical violence" every year.

Anyone can be the perpetrator of domestic violence; and anyone can be the victim; and we need more support for male victims and more recognition of female perpetrators.

But, you're wrong. Far more men than women are perpetrators of domestic violence, and far more women than men are the victims of domestic violence. This is true for crimes of sexual violence, and for stalking.

Prevalence and Characteristics of Sexual Violence, Stalking, and Intimate Partner Violence Victimization — National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, United States, 2011 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm?s_cid...

Intimate Partner Violence:

> The lifetime and 12-month prevalence of rape by an intimate partner for women was an estimated 8.8% and 0.8%, respectively (Table 6). Nationally, an estimated 15.8% of women experienced other forms of sexual violence by an intimate partner during their lifetimes, while an estimated 2.1% of women experienced other forms of sexual violence by a partner in the 12 months before taking the survey. The lifetime prevalence of physical violence by an intimate partner was an estimated 31.5% among women and in the 12 months before taking the survey, an estimated 4.0% of women experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. An estimated 22.3% of women experienced at least one act of severe physical violence by an intimate partner during their lifetimes. With respect to individual severe physical violence behaviors, being slammed against something was experienced by an estimated 15.4% of women, and being hit with a fist or something hard was experienced by 13.2% of women. In the 12 months before taking the survey, an estimated 2.3% of women experienced at least one form of severe physical violence by an intimate partner. The lifetime and 12-month prevalence of stalking by an intimate partner for women was an estimated 9.2% and 2.4%, respectively. Finally, an estimated 47.1% of women experienced at least one act of psychological aggression by an intimate partner during their lifetimes; an estimated 14.2% of women experienced some form of psychological aggression in the 12 months preceding the survey.

> Nationally, an estimated 0.5% of men experienced rape by an intimate partner during their lifetimes. However, the case count for men reporting rape by an intimate partner in the preceding 12 months was too small to produce a statistically reliable prevalence estimate. An estimated 9.5% of men experienced other forms of sexual violence by an intimate partner during their lifetimes, while an estimated 2.1% of men experienced other forms of sexual violence by an intimate partner in the 12 months before taking the survey. The lifetime prevalence of physical violence by an intimate partner was an estimated 27.5% for men, and in the 12 months before taking the survey, an estimated 4.8% of men experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. An estimated 14.0% of men experienced at least one act of severe physical violence by an intimate partner during their lifetimes. With respect to individual severe physical violence behaviors, being hit with a fist or something hard was experienced by an estimated 10.1% of men, and 4.6% of men have been kicked by an intimate partner. In the 12 months before taking the survey, an estimated 2.1% of men experienced at least one form of severe physical violence by an intimate partner. The lifetime and 12-month prevalence of stalking by an intimate partner for men was an estimated 2.5% and 0.8%, respectively. Finally, an estimated 46.5% of men experienced at least one act of psychological aggression by an intimate partner during their lifetimes; an estimated 18.0% of men experienced some form of psychological aggression in the 12 months preceding the survey.

Sexual violence:

> Results: In the United States, an estimated 19.3% of women and 1.7% of men have been raped during their lifetimes; an estimated 1.6% of women reported that they were raped in the 12 months preceding the survey. The case count for men reporting rape in the preceding 12 months was too small to produce a statistically reliable prevalence estimate. An estimated 43.9% of women and 23.4% of men experienced other forms of sexual violence during their lifetimes, including being made to penetrate, sexual coercion, unwanted sexual contact, and noncontact unwanted sexual experiences. The percentages of women and men who experienced these other forms of sexual violence victimization in the 12 months preceding the survey were an estimated 5.5% and 5.1%, respectively.

Stalking:

> In the United States, an estimated 15.2% of women (18.3 million women) have experienced stalking during their lifetimes that made them feel very fearful or made them believe that they or someone close to them would be harmed or killed (Table 4). In addition, an estimated 4.2% of women (approximately 5.1 million women) were stalked in the 12 months before taking the survey.

> Nationally, an estimated 5.7% of men (or nearly 6.5 million) have experienced stalking victimization during their lifetimes, while an estimated 2.1% of men (or 2.4 million) were stalked in the 12 months before taking the survey

> Among female stalking victims, an estimated 88.3% were stalked by only male perpetrators; an estimated 7.1% had only female perpetrators. Among male stalking victims, almost half (an estimated 48.0%) were stalked by only male perpetrators while a similar proportion (an estimated 44.6%) were stalked by only female perpetrators.

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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This topic has obviously become highly socio-political. The current fashion is that there are basically NO biological sex-type differences; that any sex-type differences are socially imposed and generally disadvantageous to women. I think a meta-study style article like this useful to show all the rich and varied science on the matter and to help spark a dialogue around "what if?". If we assume even half of the impli…

"The current fashion is that there are basically NO biological sex-type differences" - seriously who argues this? I asked below and only got two examples of rebuttals, not examples of people actually arguing this.

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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Here in Sweden if you are of the opinion that men and women are biologically different, people will call you "racist", bigot, idiot, and so on. It is terrifying, difference has somehow become connected to the thought that one gender should be inferior. Personally i don't care particularly much WHY the sexes are different, we are different that is enough knowledge for me in my life at the moment. I do however care abo…

Hi, do you have an example of that happening in Sweden?

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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It's not nitpicking, it's called connecting the dots. His main point is far less interesting than the points I outlined. He's using statistics an research as a tool for making excuses for the current situation. I don't believe he is genuine. It's like phrenology all over again.

> His main point is far less interesting than the points I outlined. To me, it seems like you aren't able to respond to his claim (suppression of views at Google), therefore you won't do so. > It's like phrenology all over again Comparing modern science to phrenology is a false equivalence, because phrenology was invented 200 years ago before the implementation of established scientific protocols, statistical sample…

Comparing to phrenology is completely appropriate. Phrenology was used to justify certain ideology. You don't think in 100 years the standards won't improve and we won't laugh at people who used this research to justify certain ideological views? His logic is flawed because he has a fixed mindset, which I believe is a logical dead end with little evidence to back it up. He is on the wrong side of history, and I make that opinion strongly.

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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Here on HN you'll be banned if you're not careful too.

Do you have an example of that? My experience on HN is that there exists a small minority of users who might shout you down, but I've never seen or heard of a user being banned for discussing something like this in good faith.

I've seen it claimed, without substantiation, that anyone who argues against the fashionable position can't possibly be doing so "in good faith" - because the unfashionable position itself is declared to be a bad faith position.

I've seen this repeatedly on HN.

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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Similarly, some leftists claim that race is a social construct because there is more genetic variation within a race than across them. Except you have genetic tests that easily identify race: https://www.wired.com/2007/12/ps-dna/ and medical studies that indicate the race of patients studied, because it is a medically significant concept: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Different-Races-Are-Genetical... .

Or maybe that's because there's actually a scientific consensus that there's no biological races so to speak : http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?It...

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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This topic has obviously become highly socio-political. The current fashion is that there are basically NO biological sex-type differences; that any sex-type differences are socially imposed and generally disadvantageous to women. I think a meta-study style article like this useful to show all the rich and varied science on the matter and to help spark a dialogue around "what if?". If we assume even half of the impli…

I do agree with your summation of the current state of things. I would say that if we agree that there are behavioral and cognitive differences between men and women (I personally think the evidence is pretty clear that there are) that these differences are not inherently better or worse but Historically men have been the ones that have largely developed, defined and been in control of our social, political and economical institutions so have self selected for traits that benefit those systems. I think this is the bigger issue.

Re: The cognitive differences between men and women

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> His main point is far less interesting than the points I outlined. To me, it seems like you aren't able to respond to his claim (suppression of views at Google), therefore you won't do so. > It's like phrenology all over again Comparing modern science to phrenology is a false equivalence, because phrenology was invented 200 years ago before the implementation of established scientific protocols, statistical sample…

Comparing to phrenology is completely appropriate. Phrenology was used to justify certain ideology. You don't think in 100 years the standards won't improve and we won't laugh at people who used this research to justify certain ideological views? His logic is flawed because he has a fixed mindset, which I believe is a logical dead end with little evidence to back it up. He is on the wrong side of history, and I make…

> phrenology

200-year-old research on phrenology was supported by dozens of data points. Today's research on cognitive sex-differences is supported by billions of data points.

>little [sic] evidence to back it up

And where is the evidence you've brought up that disproves the current scientific consensus? That is, where is your evidence disproving our massive trove of data showing cognitive differences between men and women?

His position is backed by evidence from thousands of scientific studies performed over the past century. Yours is not.

>[something about you predicting the future]

Now you've dropped below rational discourse and resorted to name calling. Do you see how trivial it is to turn your own argument against you?

You don't think in 100 years we won't laugh at people like you who ignore reality to justify certain ideological views? Your logic is flawed because you have a fixed mindset, which I believe is a logical dead end with little evidence to back it up. You are on the wrong side of history, and I make that opinion strongly.

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