Live data from Hacker News

“We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

blogs.adobe.com

501–508 of 508 posts

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And AS3/FLex is still better then JS/and any JS framework

Not sure I agree. If you use some of the good transpiling languages that output JS, the syntax is far better than what AS3 had. In TypeScript/Flow, for example, you get "real" generics syntax while in AS3 you had the magic Vector stuff and that's it. And on top of that you have union types, dynamic interfaces, etc. And thanks to JavaScript VM performance, running the same code is ahead of what the Flash VM could do.…

I do not disagree, but the comparisons are not fair,first though , I am not advocating of people building new stuff with Flash so I am not trying to convince you to use it in present day. -comparing a new language TS with the old AS3 is not fair, when AS3 was around TS was not yet here, also AS3 is compiled and in theory games that are well coded in AS3 should be faster -comparing new js frameworks and libraries that are not built-in to the platform with built in Flash/Flex feature is not fair, we should compare the built-in stuff in the browser vs built-in stuff in Flash/Flex , and if we add frameworks for html/js then there are frameworks that people used for Flash/Flex. P.S. If I had a choice in what tools to use in a new SPA I would chose today TS and React(or something like react), if you have experience with React are there good components already built, I mean good that are not buggy(dropdowns going offscreen, or if you have more then one component things go crazy), sometime back when I checked there were only basic stuff and wrappers for jQuerry quality ones.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#502
post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> rounded corners I don't see this as being a flash thing. You could do that in paint, photoshop or fireworks or ...

Rounded corners as in on the fly rounded corners, as in vector rounded corners. Flash was first on the web for rounded corners that weren't pre-created bitmaps. It's not a big deal, but it's a fact.

Fireworks and illustrators were vector based graphic softwares as well. I don't think you're right.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#503
post #6

I wonder what the major use cases are for Flash Player these days? I assume some of the 'Farm Ville' style web games are probably in Flash still these days.

spotify web uses flash

No, it has been using EME[1] (eg. Google Widevine in Chrome) for a few months now.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I agree. If you use some of the good transpiling languages that output JS, the syntax is far better than what AS3 had. In TypeScript/Flow, for example, you get "real" generics syntax while in AS3 you had the magic Vector stuff and that's it. And on top of that you have union types, dynamic interfaces, etc. And thanks to JavaScript VM performance, running the same code is ahead of what the Flash VM could do.…

I do not disagree, but the comparisons are not fair,first though , I am not advocating of people building new stuff with Flash so I am not trying to convince you to use it in present day. -comparing a new language TS with the old AS3 is not fair, when AS3 was around TS was not yet here, also AS3 is compiled and in theory games that are well coded in AS3 should be faster -comparing new js frameworks and libraries that…

> comparing a new language TS with the old AS3 is not fair

Sure, but that's the comparison invited when one says that AS3 is still better than what's out there today.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#506

Adobe abandonment of Flex has to be one of the most perplexing acts of corporate self harm I have witnessed ( and been affected by). Dominating the Rich Internet Application space and poised to storm corporate apps by levaraging all those Flex Devs via Adobe Air and they... just knife them all in the back and abandon Flex totally. Just jaw dropping. Inexplicable.

> Adobe abandonment of Flex has to be one of the most perplexing acts of corporate self harm I have witnessed ( and been affected by). Flex is now an Apache open source project. It still has an active developer community, some of whom are Adobe employees, and appear to work on Flex full-time. Unfortunately, it seems the developer community is focusing most of their efforts on FlexJS, an HTML/JavaScript version of Fle…

If this had been Adobe's focus rather than chucking it at Apache then Adobe would be world leaders in JavaScript app development and we'd all be using their tools.

Re: “We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

#508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could always just opt for a typed language.

Which typed language do you prefer to run in browsers?

The comment I was replying to was referring to Node, so based on the context I wasn't discussing the browser.
Post reply on HN