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American Dream is Elusive for New Generation

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Re: American Dream is Elusive for New Generation

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Yeah they could have picked a more sympathetic subject.

I recall another story about a girl who attended NYU and has a mountain of debt and can't find work. At the end of the article it stated her major, and it wasn't something that was marketable in today's economy. Which sounds slightly arrogant. As a reader, I can see the mistakes made. The reality in any economy is that a womens studies graduate from NYU is going to have more difficulty finding work than say an engine…

I think there is much more pressure on young people today (me being one of them) that you must be doing what your love or working on your passion.

While good advice, some young people don't realise that this is good long-term advice. It's something you should work towards over a number of years. It is a very big mistake to close doors that may not offer the perfect path. I have some friends like this who seem to want the perfect job right away so they pass up other opportunities even though they could lead to it in the future.

Re: American Dream is Elusive for New Generation

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Actually, upon looking again, I think that his grandfather has a point. My english teacher my senior year of high school strongly encouraged me to spend a semester biking or backpacking through Europe, taking short term jobs to support myself as I traveled. At the time, I thought she was insane, but that kind of perspective could probably do this guy lots of good.

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I was surprised to read this article, as it seemed to me from reading HN and other tech-related news sources that there are more opportunities than ever. Am I wrong?

I guess it depends on what you mean by "oppotunities". While the economy is still slow, companies are hiring. However, it is easy to lose sight of the fact that engineering/technology degrees are much more marketable than traditional liberal arts degrees, which can give those of us in the tech-space a bit of a distorted view of the job market.

That said, the article chooses to focus on an entitled douchebag.

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall another story about a girl who attended NYU and has a mountain of debt and can't find work. At the end of the article it stated her major, and it wasn't something that was marketable in today's economy. Which sounds slightly arrogant. As a reader, I can see the mistakes made. The reality in any economy is that a womens studies graduate from NYU is going to have more difficulty finding work than say an engine…

I think there is much more pressure on young people today (me being one of them) that you must be doing what your love or working on your passion. While good advice, some young people don't realise that this is good long-term advice. It's something you should work towards over a number of years. It is a very big mistake to close doors that may not offer the perfect path. I have some friends like this who seem to want…

Exactly, long-term is the key. The majority of us are not going to be instantly wealthy (in the sense of money or passion).

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I was surprised to read this article, as it seemed to me from reading HN and other tech-related news sources that there are more opportunities than ever. Am I wrong?

There are plenty of opportunities out there. Not all of them are equal, but they exist.

He had an opportunity, but didn't take it. He'd prefer to sit and wait. If anything, it makes it look like the company is better off without him.

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I was surprised to read this article, as it seemed to me from reading HN and other tech-related news sources that there are more opportunities than ever. Am I wrong?

From the article: he doesn't want to be an entrepreneur or work in small-fish business. He is set for building a traditional career in a finance corporation. A yuppie born into wrong era.

Killer quote:

"If you talk to 20 people," Scott said, "you’ll find only one in manufacturing and everyone else in finance

Umm, no...

Re: American Dream is Elusive for New Generation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall another story about a girl who attended NYU and has a mountain of debt and can't find work. At the end of the article it stated her major, and it wasn't something that was marketable in today's economy. Which sounds slightly arrogant. As a reader, I can see the mistakes made. The reality in any economy is that a womens studies graduate from NYU is going to have more difficulty finding work than say an engine…

I think there is much more pressure on young people today (me being one of them) that you must be doing what your love or working on your passion. While good advice, some young people don't realise that this is good long-term advice. It's something you should work towards over a number of years. It is a very big mistake to close doors that may not offer the perfect path. I have some friends like this who seem to want…

There is also a lot more pressure on young people today to go amass piles of debt acquiring a college degree that they do not need.

The stigma against trade and vocational educations in this country needs to die, otherwise we're going to just keep starting people off at a bigger disadvantage than they need be for very little good reason.

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