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Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by matthewmacleod »

sprash wrote: post #23
junkculture wrote: post #4

Is this peculiar to London or do other places in the UK have the same problem?

This is a Pakistani Muslim problem. So avoid bigger cities. I lived for 10 months in Birmingham, I had to leave because even though I'm a grown man I could not tolerate the terror of people throwing rocks at your window at night. Besides the area around the main Concert Hall there is no particular "British" culture left in that city and acid attacks are definitely not done by local Brits. Nobody says anything because…

This is a sham comment and you are a liar. The idea that there is no British culture in Birmingham is bald-faced misrepresentation and you should be ashamed of it.

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by Symbiote »

weinzierl wrote: post #34

> "Bystanders who come to the aid of the victim of an attack can have an important role in minimising further injury," [..] > They urged bystanders to remove victims from exposure as soon as possible and apply "copious" amounts of water on the affected area, "to minimize the long-term effects of scarring and need for surgical reconstruction." The "'copious' amounts of water on the affected area" part can't be stresse…

> I think she said High Street in her talk but Wikipedia disagrees

"High street" can be a general term for the road with lots of shops on at the centre of a community, it's doesn't have to be called "High Street". Golders Green Road qualifies.

(In business, it's also a term for all consumer retail businesses, for example "High street sales fell 10% compared to last year".)

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by matthewmacleod »

kyrre wrote: post #32

Ban guns, ban bread knives, ... London has fallen. Glad I left three years ago.

This is mince.

Knives were banned because of an surge in knife crime. Guns have obviously been banned for an age. I suspect you have an ulterior motive.

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by vim_wannabe »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #47
tigershark wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a real threat. This kind of mugging crimes increased alarmingly especially in east London. Just reading the local newspapers you will find 5-6 such attacks each week. Do you have any source for your hypothesis?

It’s an incredibly rare threat and I doubt you have basis for 5-6 acid attacks per week in London.

I think the original title read "1.3 acid attacks per day"

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by mtmail »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #47
tigershark wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a real threat. This kind of mugging crimes increased alarmingly especially in east London. Just reading the local newspapers you will find 5-6 such attacks each week. Do you have any source for your hypothesis?

It’s an incredibly rare threat and I doubt you have basis for 5-6 acid attacks per week in London.

Further in the comments https://www.statista.com/chart/10289/acid-attacks-in-london/ is linked with 458 incidents in 2016 in London, that's daily on average.

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by sattoshi »

raverbashing wrote: post #46
novalis78 wrote: post #16

Never heard of 'acid attacks' in my life (kid of the 80s, teen of the 90s) before reading about the beautiful culture of Pakistan (2001 and after). It seems London cloned its own mini-version. Horrific.

Ah, "Cultural enrichment" it seems. (do keep the good qualities but deport the criminals)

I already feel stronger with all this diversity

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by sprash »

foop2 wrote: post #39
sprash wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a Pakistani Muslim problem. So avoid bigger cities. I lived for 10 months in Birmingham, I had to leave because even though I'm a grown man I could not tolerate the terror of people throwing rocks at your window at night. Besides the area around the main Concert Hall there is no particular "British" culture left in that city and acid attacks are definitely not done by local Brits. Nobody says anything because…

That is bullshit there are plenty of areas in Birmingham that have equally scummy white people in them. Also if people are throwing rocks at you, you are def in the wrong area, it's a city there are some places you can't go, it's a bit like walking through inner city LA and being surprised you got robbed.

I agree there are "scummy white people" too. But they only get aggressive on alcohol after sport events. They are definitely not the ones throwing acid at people. This is just a different level violence.

I lived in Selly Oak. I don't know if this area is particular bad. At least the rent was high enough.

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by rhapsodic »

Inconel wrote: post #41
foop2 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is bullshit there are plenty of areas in Birmingham that have equally scummy white people in them. Also if people are throwing rocks at you, you are def in the wrong area, it's a city there are some places you can't go, it's a bit like walking through inner city LA and being surprised you got robbed.

This is the first time I've heard this kind of argument here on HN. It sounds an awfully lot like victim blaming and I'm unsure why you think it acceptable that certain people not be allowed into certain parts of a city. Also, as a South LA resident, LA doesn't really have an inner city, or at least it hasn't been the area traditionally known for high crime.

> Also, as a South LA resident, LA doesn't really have an inner city, or at least it hasn't been the area traditionally known for high crime.

The phrase "inner city" is not geographical; it's a code phrase for a predominantly black neighborhood, or in some cases, a lower-income neighborhood.

Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by clarabrooks »

sumedh wrote: post #29
sprash wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a Pakistani Muslim problem. So avoid bigger cities. I lived for 10 months in Birmingham, I had to leave because even though I'm a grown man I could not tolerate the terror of people throwing rocks at your window at night. Besides the area around the main Concert Hall there is no particular "British" culture left in that city and acid attacks are definitely not done by local Brits. Nobody says anything because…

> I could not tolerate the terror of people throwing rocks at your window at night. Why, maybe to drive you out of the area?

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Re: Fears for tourists in London as acid attacks escalate in recent weeks

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Post by mattkrause »

weinzierl wrote: post #34

> "Bystanders who come to the aid of the victim of an attack can have an important role in minimising further injury," [..] > They urged bystanders to remove victims from exposure as soon as possible and apply "copious" amounts of water on the affected area, "to minimize the long-term effects of scarring and need for surgical reconstruction." The "'copious' amounts of water on the affected area" part can't be stresse…

For what it's worth, "high street" means the main commercial thoroughfare of an area. A high street would have lots of shops, banks, and restaurants--and thus a lot of foot traffic too, as opposed to a side street or residential area.

Many high streets are in fact called "High Street", but the term can be used regardless of the actual name as a description.

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