There is no such thing as EQ (2016)
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There is no such thing as EQ (2016)
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#2There is no such thing as IQ either its also a conceptual model. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
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#4There is no such thing as IQ either its also a conceptual model. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
Well, yes and no. Its a thing that makes sense for analyzing entire populations, not individuals - same as BMI.
But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
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#5based jordan peterson
Re: There is no such thing as EQ (2016)
#6There is no such thing as IQ either its also a conceptual model. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
Well, yes and no. Its a thing that makes sense for analyzing entire populations, not individuals - same as BMI. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
If you accept there's no EQ then why not apply the same logic to IQ? They're both based on the same false assumption that you can describe mental capacity with a number.
It's not the same with BMI, which is about setting out guidelines for a healthy weight. That is something that's more appropriate to describe numerically.
Re: There is no such thing as EQ (2016)
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, yes and no. Its a thing that makes sense for analyzing entire populations, not individuals - same as BMI. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
If you accept there's no EQ then why not apply the same logic to IQ? They're both based on the same false assumption that you can describe mental capacity with a number. It's not the same with BMI, which is about setting out guidelines for a healthy weight. That is something that's more appropriate to describe numerically.
IQ and BMI are strong predictors of income and disease.
As the linked post describes, EQ is ill-defined, and lacks predictive power over any particular outcome.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, yes and no. Its a thing that makes sense for analyzing entire populations, not individuals - same as BMI. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
If you accept there's no EQ then why not apply the same logic to IQ? They're both based on the same false assumption that you can describe mental capacity with a number. It's not the same with BMI, which is about setting out guidelines for a healthy weight. That is something that's more appropriate to describe numerically.
> If you accept there's no EQ then why not apply the same logic to IQ?
But that has been done, over and over again. By the established standard of "how to measure mental things", IQ is a very useful concept, while EQ is not.
The argument Peterson (and a few others) are making is that there is no incremental validity of EQ compared to other personality traits. That just means that EQ cannot explain more variance than these personality traits + IQ. Therefore, it is a useless concept. (I tend to agree with this argument.)
Describing mental capacity with a number is pretty straightforward, actually. You can test it yourself: Read 2 random digits. Immediately repeat them. Then do that for 3, 4, and so on. There will be a number (typically between 5 and 7) when you cannot repeat the sequence without error anymore.
There you have it: A measure for mental capacity.
If you really think IQ is garbage, how come we can ask people some weird questions, and actually predict based on these questions how successful they will be at age 40? In social science, there are few if any instances where there is such a strong connection between a measure and an outcome.
Re: There is no such thing as EQ (2016)
#9Wow, so many wrong things with this answer...
Of course, it would not surprise me to learn that measuring IQ as a predictor for success (or at least what a measurer defines as success) is much more accurate than "measuring" EQ for the same purpose. It makes sense - IQ is demonstrably measurable while EQ is some vague concept "popularized by a journalist". However, to go from this to a broad statement that there is no such thing as EQ is just silly. You could just as well say that there's no such thing as beauty because there is no accurate test to quantify it.
For a simple demonstration that EQ is an important quality for prediction of "success", just think of all the successful people you know and ask yourselves whether you think they would be as successful if they had the emotional makeup of an 8 year old.
This Quora answer has too much of a "trust me, I'm an authority" vibe to it
edited: ok, removed stuff that upon reflection does not contribute to the discussion - my apologies for that. The main point however stands. The repeated claims of no such thing as EQ should be qualified with "in the field of psychology" - in that case, I have no objection to the answer.
Re: There is no such thing as EQ (2016)
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, yes and no. Its a thing that makes sense for analyzing entire populations, not individuals - same as BMI. But agree there is no such thing as EQ.
If you accept there's no EQ then why not apply the same logic to IQ? They're both based on the same false assumption that you can describe mental capacity with a number. It's not the same with BMI, which is about setting out guidelines for a healthy weight. That is something that's more appropriate to describe numerically.
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