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Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

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Two years ago I really would have love this firefox and I'd have talk to everyone about it. However, now that I'm used to chrome, it kind of look "big" and "sad". Maybe it's the brown/gray color at the top and the fact that when I type g it doesn't automatically complete for gmail.com or n for news.ycomb... and that tab aren't as movable as chrome.

not to mention how bad bookmarks are on FF (and Opera) compared to Chrome.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, if you want to know all the features, I think the best way is to read this: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/technology , and then try it out to get a feel for all the UI changes. According to wikipedia, Chrome 5 does not support WebM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_%28browser%29 WebSockets: Yay, you're finally right, Chrome did pioneer WebSockets. Sadly, it did not update its implementation to refl…

I'm sorry you think I was trolling, as I really was asking an honest question, and I appreciate your responses. > ... and learn about what you're talking about before you speak. I have an interest in browsers and browser technology, but I don't develop any of them, no. That doesn't mean I am not allowed to discuss them, however. > Ok, if you want to know all the features ... Please don't mistake me here. I am not at…

What IS your point then? Making arguments about who did what first sounds like the basics of a middle school browser holy war argument. Ask a coherent question, and I'll give you a straight answer.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

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post #40

Two years ago I really would have love this firefox and I'd have talk to everyone about it. However, now that I'm used to chrome, it kind of look "big" and "sad". Maybe it's the brown/gray color at the top and the fact that when I type g it doesn't automatically complete for gmail.com or n for news.ycomb... and that tab aren't as movable as chrome.

The autocomplete learns based on your past browsing habits. Give it some time and it’ll get there.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

#45
The single feature that forever ties me to Chrome is tabs on top.

On top of the address bar isn't the point. It's a nice touch that emphasizes the metaphor for "real" tabs, like on a paper folder, but it doesn't have the huge usability bonus of Chrome's implementation.

The important thing is that in Chrome, the tabs are on the very top pixel of the screen (in Windows or a Linux UI with no top bar). Since I browse with a hand on the mouse, this means that I can switch between tabs by chucking the pointer at the top of the screen and scrubbing left and right, instead of having to pay attention to vertical alignment.

http://www.asktog.com/columns/022DesignedToGiveFitts.html

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

#46

The single feature that forever ties me to Chrome is tabs on top . On top of the address bar isn't the point. It's a nice touch that emphasizes the metaphor for "real" tabs, like on a paper folder, but it doesn't have the huge usability bonus of Chrome's implementation. The important thing is that in Chrome, the tabs are on the very top pixel of the screen (in Windows or a Linux UI with no top bar). Since I browse wi…

Frankly, I prefer them on the side: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5890/

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry you think I was trolling, as I really was asking an honest question, and I appreciate your responses. > ... and learn about what you're talking about before you speak. I have an interest in browsers and browser technology, but I don't develop any of them, no. That doesn't mean I am not allowed to discuss them, however. > Ok, if you want to know all the features ... Please don't mistake me here. I am not at…

What IS your point then? Making arguments about who did what first sounds like the basics of a middle school browser holy war argument. Ask a coherent question, and I'll give you a straight answer.

Same question I've been asking all along. Why did Mozilla choose to spotlight these specific features? I assume there is a strategic answer, but I don't know what it is.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

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post #40

Two years ago I really would have love this firefox and I'd have talk to everyone about it. However, now that I'm used to chrome, it kind of look "big" and "sad". Maybe it's the brown/gray color at the top and the fact that when I type g it doesn't automatically complete for gmail.com or n for news.ycomb... and that tab aren't as movable as chrome.

The autocomplete learns based on your past browsing habits. Give it some time and it’ll get there.

I know but this isn't exactly the same. On firefox, it suggests idea with a dropdown.. on chrome, it autocompletes them. Also, if it's not found, it automatically search on google.. and by pressing [tab], you can search directly from a known site. That's 3 features I really use.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 1 Released

#50
hum...

Sometimes the min/max/close buttons do not appear. Making me have to go to the "firefox" button and hit exit.

Why does the "firefox" button take up all that space? If they are going to copy Opera and add the "firefox" button, then copy Opera and make it look good. (talking about maximized window)

Moving the tabs is still really bad. Chrome and Opera both have really smooth transitions and opera even adds nice preview windows.

On the flip side

It feels much more responsive. I don't care about the actual numbers just the feel.

The new addon manager that they copied from chrome looks much better, then the previous and even chromes.

The loading circle on the tabs is really nice touch. Its nice being able to see how far along a tab is in its loading phase. This is a feature I see all browsers copying very soon.

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