Earlier quoted context omitted.
For someone not very up to date with all the various ZFS flavors, can you please explain this a bit?
ZFS is a native filesystem to FreeBSD, where as in Linux it is not.
It's also had more baking time on FreeBSD.
832 TB – ZFS on Linux
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Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#12"I ended up between the Supermicro SSG-6048R-E1CR60L or the SSG-6048R-E1CR90L – the E1CR60L is a 60-bay 4U chassis while the E1CR90L is a 90-bay 4U chassis. This nice part is that no matter which platform you choose Supermicro sells this only as a pre-configured machine – this means that their engineers are going to make sure that the hardware you choose to put in this is all from a known compatibility list. Basicall…
Can you say what vendor you are using now?
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#13"I ended up between the Supermicro SSG-6048R-E1CR60L or the SSG-6048R-E1CR90L – the E1CR60L is a 60-bay 4U chassis while the E1CR90L is a 90-bay 4U chassis. This nice part is that no matter which platform you choose Supermicro sells this only as a pre-configured machine – this means that their engineers are going to make sure that the hardware you choose to put in this is all from a known compatibility list. Basicall…
Can you say what vendor you are using now?
Well, our vendor continues to be IX Systems (for the most part).
However, instead of buying exclusively supermicro from them, we are now buying these Hitachi 60bay JBODs:
http://www.hgst.com/products/platforms/4U60G2-storage-platfo...
It really bugs that supermicro went this way. They used to be a very boring company that did nothing but build great chassis. I used to jokingly say that "supermicro is the rsync.net of hardware".
But now they're getting cute and that's never a good sign.
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#14"I ended up between the Supermicro SSG-6048R-E1CR60L or the SSG-6048R-E1CR90L – the E1CR60L is a 60-bay 4U chassis while the E1CR90L is a 90-bay 4U chassis. This nice part is that no matter which platform you choose Supermicro sells this only as a pre-configured machine – this means that their engineers are going to make sure that the hardware you choose to put in this is all from a known compatibility list. Basicall…
What specifically is the problem? Overpriced drives?
Yes. $30-$50 each. Multiply that by 60 or 90 and multiply that by (however many you put in a rack).
That adds up to five figure premiums on drives we're going to burn in anyway.
We know how to read an HCL - it's not rocket science.
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#15"I ended up between the Supermicro SSG-6048R-E1CR60L or the SSG-6048R-E1CR90L – the E1CR60L is a 60-bay 4U chassis while the E1CR90L is a 90-bay 4U chassis. This nice part is that no matter which platform you choose Supermicro sells this only as a pre-configured machine – this means that their engineers are going to make sure that the hardware you choose to put in this is all from a known compatibility list. Basicall…
What specifically is the problem? Overpriced drives?
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Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
For someone not very up to date with all the various ZFS flavors, can you please explain this a bit?
ZFS is a native filesystem to FreeBSD, where as in Linux it is not.
Sure but that alone doesn't mean it's any less suitable on Ubuntu. I'm just trying to understand what the differences are in implementation, reliability, etc.
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
ZFS is a native filesystem to FreeBSD, where as in Linux it is not.
Sure but that alone doesn't mean it's any less suitable on Ubuntu. I'm just trying to understand what the differences are in implementation, reliability, etc.
ZFS-on-Linux has not been mainstream (or existed) for as long as ZFS has been integrated inside FreeBSD. illumos is the free software fork of OpenSolaris -- so it's the repo of record for modern ZFS development.
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#18The most important line for me was "Today, you can run ZFS on Ubuntu 16.0.4.2 LTS with standard repositories and Canonical’s Ubuntu Advantage Advanced Support. That makes the decision easy."
Its highly interesting that Canonical does this with ZFS. I'm not sure why they dont market this more.
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
What specifically is the problem? Overpriced drives?
Yes. $30-$50 each. Multiply that by 60 or 90 and multiply that by (however many you put in a rack). That adds up to five figure premiums on drives we're going to burn in anyway . We know how to read an HCL - it's not rocket science.
Even if reading hcl were rocket science a more validating vendor would preserve buyer self determination
Re: 832 TB – ZFS on Linux
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you say what vendor you are using now?
Well, our vendor continues to be IX Systems (for the most part). However, instead of buying exclusively supermicro from them, we are now buying these Hitachi 60bay JBODs: http://www.hgst.com/products/platforms/4U60G2-storage-platfo... It really bugs that supermicro went this way. They used to be a very boring company that did nothing but build great chassis. I used to jokingly say that "supermicro is the rsync.net of…
They're starting to see enterprise growth. Enterprises spend lots of money but are usually pretty dumb.