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Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, if only America were as "ethical" as other countries like the one that gives a person who murders 80 children a little 3-room apartment with a Playstation 2, personal PC, kitchen, exercise area, etc. where they can write their memoirs

That might sound unfair, but that doesn't make it necessarily wrong. There are also things that are intuitive, but wrong. We can reason and overrule our intuition.

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Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

The Tech Community in the US generally only cares about "bikeshedding" issues that are easy to have strong opinions on and don't really matter. Like making sure your language is "inclusive", or things like the "Ada Initiative" so women can attend PyCons without hearing the word "dongle" being used in private conversations.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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If you are not a US citizen you have fewer rights if you are arrested in the US. Even fewer if it's via extraordinary rendition.

This is simply not true. Everyone on US soil has the same rights when accused of a crime. Incidentally, the rights of the accused are stronger in the US than in any other jurisdiction in the world. He has the unqualified right to remain silent and to a jury trial in which illegally gathered evidence is excluded. He would have neither of those in the UK.

What? That is a gigantic lie. IANAL, but just a quick search reveals that illegal evidence is not allowed [1] and there is a right to remain silent [2] (which seems to be held even by the European Court [3]) so I don't know what you are talking about,

1: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/confession_and_breaches_o... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_an... 3: http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/1996/3.html#para45

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Call me very sceptical. Where did he all has the money from, which he spent in Vegas? It looks very suspicious to me. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4762608/Marcus-Hutch... * Rented a Lamborghini, and wanted to rent a helicopter flight to the Grand Canyon. * Stayed at a £1,950-a-night mansion rented with seven friends with Vegas' largest private pool. Who paid for this? * Didn't attend the 2 conferences ther…

According to Andrew Mabbitt - "He stayed in our villa for free. He didn't pay for the car. He didn't pay for a helicopter ride. He didn't pay for concert tickets..." [1] He takes home a 6 figure salary [2] [1] https://twitter.com/mabbssec/status/893617953530273792 [2] https://twitter.com/mabbssec/status/893624617142759425

"He stayed in our villa" So which criminal paid then? His partner? Very fishy to me

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

Regarding grand jury indictments, it's very, very rare for a grand jury to refuse to indict somebody, so that isn't necessarily a good measure of the quality of the case against the accused. Of roughly 162,000 federal cases brought before grand juries in 2010, indictments were returned for all but 11 of them. https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-i...

Devils Advocate here.

Could that be that law enforcement do not bring cases to the grand jury unless there is significant evidence already? If they have clear requirements it could just be that they're being selective about what they submit.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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post #62

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

Regarding grand jury indictments, it's very, very rare for a grand jury to refuse to indict somebody, so that isn't necessarily a good measure of the quality of the case against the accused. Of roughly 162,000 federal cases brought before grand juries in 2010, indictments were returned for all but 11 of them. https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-i...

Yeah, the joke is that you could indict a ham sandwich. But in seriousness, the bar is supposed to be low. The prosecutor needs to present enough evidence to convince the grand jury that there is probable cause to believe that the accused has committed a crime. You have to have some evidence of guilt.

And like dijit says, prosecutors aren't in the business of prosecuting hopelessly unwinnable cases, which is what you would have if you can't even show probable cause.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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The case seems to stem from the takedown of a website called AlphaBay, where a large amount of new cases are now entering the US justice system. Can someone explain what this means? Is there a news article somewhere explaining the flood of cases created by AlphaBay? Why haven't I heard of other's being prosecuted?

AlphaBay was a darknet market. As you might expect, it trafficked in illegal goods. Since authorities seized it and shut it down, they've been able to read the site's data, and can now prosecute all sorts of illegal actions that happened there.

They didn't shut it down immediately, they run it for a few weeks collecting information.

It's quite likely that they've used it to either directly compromise or unmask real world assets of it's users beyond what would be possible from just reading some logs.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are not a US citizen you have fewer rights if you are arrested in the US. Even fewer if it's via extraordinary rendition.

Yeah. You don't have the right to vote in our elections for example. Non-US citizens arrested in the US will potentially face deportation and permanent expulsion if the crimes are serious enough, like rape or murder. Other than that the police will likely treat you just the same as any American, which is not necessarily great but at least it's equitable. Now the federal law enforcement departments are more brutal in…

> face deportation and permanent expulsion if the crimes are serious enough, like rape or murder

Any felony is grounds for deportation and permanent expulsion regardless of how "serious" it might be.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Call me very sceptical. Where did he all has the money from, which he spent in Vegas? It looks very suspicious to me. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4762608/Marcus-Hutch... * Rented a Lamborghini, and wanted to rent a helicopter flight to the Grand Canyon. * Stayed at a £1,950-a-night mansion rented with seven friends with Vegas' largest private pool. Who paid for this? * Didn't attend the 2 conferences ther…

The Daily Mail is so shit that most wouldn’t even use it as toilet paper.

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Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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The case seems to stem from the takedown of a website called AlphaBay, where a large amount of new cases are now entering the US justice system. Can someone explain what this means? Is there a news article somewhere explaining the flood of cases created by AlphaBay? Why haven't I heard of other's being prosecuted?

Its larger than AlphaBay.

See Operation Bayonet, which became public on july 20 2017:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/massive-blow-to-...

Wikipedia might have more information as well. Regarding AlphaBay:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaBay#Seizure_and_shutdown

What I personally found interesting about the whole story (which was widely covered in Dutch media, since the police is (rightfully, IMO) proud of their accomplishment) is how the Dutch police were able to keep a darknet site called Hansa running for nearly a month after the servers were seized. The German police arrested the administrators, while the Dutch police moved the servers to Dutch territory, and made them operational again. They then tried to keep the site running, so they could analyse the logs, traffic, and visitors.

Interestingly, the Canadian AlphaBay administrator was residing in Thailand and was logged in at that moment to keep the site running because there were some (artificial) technical difficulties. I'm curious how those were started. If you don't want to confiscate the server, but know where it is, it should be doable to -for example- do massive traffic shaping on the link to make it seem like there's a DoS attack.

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