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Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by mrtksn »

rurban wrote: post #50

Call me very sceptical. Where did he all has the money from, which he spent in Vegas? It looks very suspicious to me. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4762608/Marcus-Hutch... * Rented a Lamborghini, and wanted to rent a helicopter flight to the Grand Canyon. * Stayed at a £1,950-a-night mansion rented with seven friends with Vegas' largest private pool. Who paid for this? * Didn't attend the 2 conferences ther…

UK is a high-income country so these things listed as lavish can be done on bus driver level of income. 1950gbp for 7 people is like 280gbp per night, which is less than any luxurious accommodation in London.

An employed UK citizen doesn't have to rob a bank to stay in Las Vegas for few days and rent an exotic car.

Oh and I would not take a Daily Mail article as a facts source. What it could have actually happened is that he created a proof of concept code that can do these things, not actually creating a malware to steal bank details.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by teuobk »

wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

Regarding grand jury indictments, it's very, very rare for a grand jury to refuse to indict somebody, so that isn't necessarily a good measure of the quality of the case against the accused. Of roughly 162,000 federal cases brought before grand juries in 2010, indictments were returned for all but 11 of them.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-i...

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by dexterdog »

wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

If anybody watched what they did to Russ Ulbrecht they have a reason to be skeptical. The funny part is that they clearly didn't get the concept of the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by ThinkBeat »

wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

uh..... Except you know... torture, rendition, asset forfeiture, holding people for years without trial or even charges.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

dexterdog wrote: post #63
wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

If anybody watched what they did to Russ Ulbrecht they have a reason to be skeptical. The funny part is that they clearly didn't get the concept of the Dread Pirate Roberts.

There was a clear case against Ross Ulbricht.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by wildmusings »

dexterdog wrote: post #63
wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

If anybody watched what they did to Russ Ulbrecht they have a reason to be skeptical. The funny part is that they clearly didn't get the concept of the Dread Pirate Roberts.

>If anybody watched what they did to Russ Ulbrecht they have a reason to be skeptical

You mean the guy who ran a massive illegal drug marketplace, and who tried to have people killed to protect it?

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by [deleted] »

dexterdog wrote: post #63
wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

If anybody watched what they did to Russ Ulbrecht they have a reason to be skeptical. The funny part is that they clearly didn't get the concept of the Dread Pirate Roberts.

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Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

notwhiteknight wrote: post #27

The case seems to stem from the takedown of a website called AlphaBay, where a large amount of new cases are now entering the US justice system. Can someone explain what this means? Is there a news article somewhere explaining the flood of cases created by AlphaBay? Why haven't I heard of other's being prosecuted?

AlphaBay was a darknet market. As you might expect, it trafficked in illegal goods. Since authorities seized it and shut it down, they've been able to read the site's data, and can now prosecute all sorts of illegal actions that happened there.

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by sasas »

rurban wrote: post #50

Call me very sceptical. Where did he all has the money from, which he spent in Vegas? It looks very suspicious to me. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4762608/Marcus-Hutch... * Rented a Lamborghini, and wanted to rent a helicopter flight to the Grand Canyon. * Stayed at a £1,950-a-night mansion rented with seven friends with Vegas' largest private pool. Who paid for this? * Didn't attend the 2 conferences ther…

According to Andrew Mabbitt -

"He stayed in our villa for free. He didn't pay for the car. He didn't pay for a helicopter ride. He didn't pay for concert tickets..." [1]

He takes home a 6 figure salary [2]

[1] https://twitter.com/mabbssec/status/893617953530273792

[2] https://twitter.com/mabbssec/status/893624617142759425

Re: Regarding Marcus Hutchins aka MalwareTech

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Post by nvarsj »

wildmusings wrote: post #56

The tech community's reaction to this is frankly laughable and embarrassing. The man has been accused of a crime. A grand jury has seen enough evidence to indict him. This is the United States of America, where as someone accused of a crime he will have more rights than he would in just about any other jurisdiction in the world.[1] Yet so many in this forum and elsewhere are spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories a…

The US is notoriously bad in dealing with tech cases. The punishment is usually extreme, way beyond the damage caused. Things like DCMA also punish things they shouldn't. US is hardly an example of a fair judicial system.
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