Ask HN: Would it cost less for a large scale company to use mainframes?

#1

Post by techdominator » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 9:02 PM UTC

Very large scale companies, such as Google and Amazon for example, relies on hardware servers infrastructure to support the running of their services.

It is in my understanding that these companies use x86 and ARM based rack-mounted servers pushing them to scale horizontally rather than vertically.

Why don't these companies use mainframes (IBM System Z for example)?

Wouldn't they benefit from the following advantages? - Simpler software architecture that leverage vertical scale - maybe less datacenter space required? - maybe more efficient power consumption?

Re: Ask HN: Would it cost less for a large scale company to use mainframes?

#2

Post by danielvf » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 9:35 PM UTC

Mainframes are tremendously expensive per unit of compute power. Commodity hardware is far cheaper. However Google and Facebook have their own custom designed and built computers that have almost every drop of unnecessary cost squeezed out of them. Mainframes would be incredibly more expensive.

Re: Ask HN: Would it cost less for a large scale company to use mainframes?

#3

Post by danielvf » Fri, Aug 04, 2017, 9:36 PM UTC

Mainframes are tremendously expensive per unit of compute power. Commodity hardware is far cheaper. However Google and Facebook have their own custom designed and built computers that have almost every drop of unnecessary cost squeezed out of them. Mainframes would be incredibly more expensive.

The software architecture benefits wouldn't be there either. They'd still have to build multi data center distributed systems, even with mainframes.

Re: Ask HN: Would it cost less for a large scale company to use mainframes?

#4

Post by rich335z » Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:41 AM UTC

danielvf wrote: post #3

Mainframes are tremendously expensive per unit of compute power. Commodity hardware is far cheaper. However Google and Facebook have their own custom designed and built computers that have almost every drop of unnecessary cost squeezed out of them. Mainframes would be incredibly more expensive. The software architecture benefits wouldn't be there either. They'd still have to build multi data center distributed system…

What data do you have to back up this assertion?