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Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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> The indictment does not say Hutchins designed Kronos or sold Kronos. Rather, it says that he provided computer code to a second party to update Kronos.

> Overt Acts in Furtherance of the Conspiracy

> a. Defendant MARCUS HUTCHINS created the Kronos malware.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3912524-Kronos-Indic...

Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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Realistically, DEF CON should move to the Caribbean.

Marcus Hutchins is a British citizen. Extradition before the event was feasible and would have been a far more honorable path than the snatch and grab that transpired.

British security experts might insist on Grand Cayman for any further conferences in the Americas.

Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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post #3

Realistically, DEF CON should move to the Caribbean. Marcus Hutchins is a British citizen. Extradition before the event was feasible and would have been a far more honorable path than the snatch and grab that transpired. British security experts might insist on Grand Cayman for any further conferences in the Americas.

Maybe Sir Richard Branson could host it on Neckar and stream it live on Virgin.com -- I'm only slightly kidding.

Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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Realistically, DEF CON should move to the Caribbean. Marcus Hutchins is a British citizen. Extradition before the event was feasible and would have been a far more honorable path than the snatch and grab that transpired. British security experts might insist on Grand Cayman for any further conferences in the Americas.

Extradition needn't have come into it. The US authorities could have sent their evidence to the UK police to deal with (assuming the UK police didn't have it to start with).

If we want justice to be seen to be done, we shouldn't encourage "forum-shopping" by law-enforcement, letting them bring prosecutions in a country where the defendent will be artificially disadvantaged.

Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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> It is unclear from the indictment if Hutchins would have been aware his work was being used maliciously

The indictment specifically states he sold the malware. Unless he was completely convinced the buyers of Kronos were using it for research into browser malware, it's pretty damned obvious.

I'd be interested to talk to malware researchers that are genuinely scared about this.

Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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post #6
post #3

Realistically, DEF CON should move to the Caribbean. Marcus Hutchins is a British citizen. Extradition before the event was feasible and would have been a far more honorable path than the snatch and grab that transpired. British security experts might insist on Grand Cayman for any further conferences in the Americas.

Extradition needn't have come into it. The US authorities could have sent their evidence to the UK police to deal with (assuming the UK police didn't have it to start with). If we want justice to be seen to be done, we shouldn't encourage "forum-shopping" by law-enforcement, letting them bring prosecutions in a country where the defendent will be artificially disadvantaged.

Having said that, if the unidentified co-conspirator is from the US and they're going to be tried together, it wouldn't be so unreasonable.

Re: Arrest of WannaCry researcher sends chill through security community

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Realistically, DEF CON should move to the Caribbean. Marcus Hutchins is a British citizen. Extradition before the event was feasible and would have been a far more honorable path than the snatch and grab that transpired. British security experts might insist on Grand Cayman for any further conferences in the Americas.

I was just at this past DEF CON. The good majority of attendees were from the United States.

It doesn't make sense to move it to the Caribbean. That would cause attendance to drop by a lot, and some other organization would just start another conference in the US, and most people would go to that one.

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