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Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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I got a MBP this last refresh. I'm a programmer. Touch Bar is a nice incremental advance. Not having a physical ESC key is not as bothersome as I expected. In fact, I don't notice it at all. Disclaimer: I don't use vi. I like the media control modes, and am looking forward to content creation apps (ex: Ableton) making use of it. I'd be sad if it were taken away, but it wouldn't prevent me from getting work done. It's…

Completely agree. There are still times when the brightness or volume slider gets stuck on screen and have to wait a while for it to reset. Thought it would be fixed in the refresh One thing which annoys me is the empty space to the left of the esc key in the touch bar.

You can quickly switch to another app (or desktop) to “fix” that issue.

The space left to the esc key can also be touched right? I just use my capslock as esc key, I like it even more that way than in the default position.

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Anyone who has the new model w/ Touch Bar can comment on the usefulness of it, now that it's been out for a while? Do you ever used it / still use it daily?

I find it quite usefull at times. One thing I really like are the settings you get while taking a screenshot, when you press the shortcut for the area screenshot tool you have the option to change the destination or copy it to clipboard, you can also change it to another tool. I’m not sure if that was possible before.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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If they wanted the top row to be flexible, I would have prefered individual keys with an eink-style surface that could change, but would look completely normal otherwise.

It would be nice if it were like the Optimus keyboard [1], but I understand why they didn't do it. I would remove a lot of flexibility for sliders and variable size keys. [1] http://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/

It would also cost a lot more.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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Anyone who has the new model w/ Touch Bar can comment on the usefulness of it, now that it's been out for a while? Do you ever used it / still use it daily?

I use an external keyboard most of the time, so the TB goes unused.

I've customised it with BetterTouchTool so at least I have some useful shortcuts the few times I'm on the road, but I wouldn't cry if it went away. It's one of those things I would have loved when I was 16, but grown-up me doesn't see much value in it. The fact that I cannot reliably reach a button without looking at it, basically disqualifies it for any keyboard poweruser, I think.

Touch-ID addition is wonderful, no complaints there (beyond a bit of extra paranoia).

The rest of the keyboard is a love-hate thing. I find myself banging on it, the travel is really short, especially for people using mechanical or simil-mechanical keyboards; and it's pretty noisy compared to the previous one. I also hate the collapsed arrow keys.

To be honest I bought this MBP only because I found it uber-discounted in Japan. The power upgrade is nice, but everything else (the TB, the dongles, even the outsized trackpad) is change for change's sake, and it makes the experience overall worse compared to the previous model, IMHO.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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Anyone who has the new model w/ Touch Bar can comment on the usefulness of it, now that it's been out for a while? Do you ever used it / still use it daily?

I replaced the Siri button with a "lock screen" button. I do love that about it. :)

How is that an improvement over ctrl-shift-pwr? Yes I know it's 3 buttons, but is that worth a ~$300 feature?

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Oh, the Touch Bar that is preventing me from getting a new laptop, because I am professional. ThinkPad is actually solid replacement.

I've been searching for alternatives too. Problem is I don't know of any laptop that has a similar quality touchpad compared to MBP. Apparently Apple has invested much more in touchpad responsivity, especially to small movements.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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Anyone who has the new model w/ Touch Bar can comment on the usefulness of it, now that it's been out for a while? Do you ever used it / still use it daily?

I bet you'll get dramatically different opinions based upon people who bought it themselves or had work buy it for them. Former have to self justify cost, latter don't.

I am one of latter. The touch bar is garbage. It is less accurate and takes longer than the old media. I rarely use it. I use emaca - try hitting meta-f a few times in a row and tell me that getting rid of the ESC key is not annoying

The new keyboard is garbage. I occasionally open my previous mac and I really miss the keyboard. I have a maxed-out MacBook Pro 15" touch bar. Apple has really screwed up its human interfaces.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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I love my MBP, I think its the best yet. But the touch bar is pretty pointless, I would rather have just paid less money or gotten better hardware. Maybe if I use an app that uses it effectively my opinion will change.

I have a feeling the touch-bar is part of Apple's strategy to slowly convert keyboards into touch-screens for their desktops and notebooks. They're doing it a lot more carefully than on the phone where they could jump all-in.

If they can improve the haptic feel of it by iterating on a less-critical portion of the keyboard and show people what a more adaptable layout can do, maybe they'll be able to produce a touch-screen keyboard most people want.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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If they wanted the top row to be flexible, I would have prefered individual keys with an eink-style surface that could change, but would look completely normal otherwise.

You can have sliders in the touchbar that you can't have with e-ink keys.

The bar would be perfect for adjusting volume and brightness if Apple decided to remove the awful indicator pop-up in the monitor.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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This is definitely interesting and well excuted, but there are two problems which prevent me from using this regularly. These are, of course, just my opinions and I completely understand that others may disagree:

Firstly, the interaction paradigm doesn't really make sense. Swiping should advance / go back, not open or hide, and tapping on the headline should open the link in the browser. The headlines should automatically cycle through with a customisable delay, or work like a scrolling ticker system.

Secondly, there's no way to view the HN comments on any given article, since swiping takes you directly to the article. If I read an article linked on HN while I'm browsing here, I am invariably more interested in the discussion surrounding it than the article itself. Ideally, tapping the headline would open the comments on HN, and I could then open the link to the article myself if I choose to. Alternatively, a short press could open the article, and a long press could open the comments, or something like that.

Overall, I really like the concept, and I especially like the fact that it turns the Touch Bar into something actually useful for a change, but I can't see myself using this app without the above changes.

EDIT: I don't seem to be able to quit the app, either. I had to kill the process since tapping on the "x" button didn't do anything.

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