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Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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It's written in…Rust? That's interesting. How is it interacting with Cocoa? EDIT: It looks like it's using the rubrail package, which links with the private DFRFoundation framework. rubrail itself is using the objc package. I think this code snippet from the README[1] is enough: let cls = Class::get("NSObject").unwrap(); let obj: *mut Object = msg_send![cls, new]; let hash: usize = msg_send![obj, hash]; let is_kind:…

It should be still rewritten in rust.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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post #7

Apple is basically dead to me now. I have no interest in this "touch bar", and it just increases the cost of an already pricey laptop for no gain. When my current MBPR dies, a SurfaceBook is replacing it.

Cool story.

Please don't? Even if a comment is bad, replying like this only makes the thread worse.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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Mac Touch Bar is useless. Does anyone actually use it? Would you rather have the touch bar or your escape key back?

I'm using a machine with a touch bar right now and I have an escape key in the upper-left corner of the touch bar where it always was. I don't understand this complaint.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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post #15

Mac Touch Bar is useless. Does anyone actually use it? Would you rather have the touch bar or your escape key back?

I assume the Touch Bar and the corresponding decision to remove the ESC key is part of the strategy to make the transition between iOS and MacOS as seamless as possible, even if the 2 systems are never completely unified. I can't remember the last time I've ever used the ESC key in day-to-day computing but I notice its absence all the time when using the iPad Pro's smart cover keyboard. I don't own a Touch Bar laptop…

> I can't remember the last time I've ever used the ESC key in day-to-day computing but I notice its absence all the time when using the iPad Pro's smart cover keyboard.

That's strange, I use it every day to get out of modal boxes, dialogs, close panels etc, revert to normal states.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worse than useless. Adds no value and sometimes it crashes.

Debating whether to buy this model or stay away. How do you ESC when this thing crashes?

I have had one since launch and it has never crashed, that said I use caps lock as a second escape key anyway (an option available in the standard settings app)

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

#27

It's written in…Rust? That's interesting. How is it interacting with Cocoa? EDIT: It looks like it's using the rubrail package, which links with the private DFRFoundation framework. rubrail itself is using the objc package. I think this code snippet from the README[1] is enough: let cls = Class::get("NSObject").unwrap(); let obj: *mut Object = msg_send![cls, new]; let hash: usize = msg_send![obj, hash]; let is_kind:…

It should be still rewritten in rust.

What? Cocoa, or toucHNews?

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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post #18

The Touch Bar has revolutionized the way I accidentally invoke Siri once per 30 minute period.

You can remove Siri from the touch bar in the touchbar settings. While in the settings you can tap the bar to open the different configurations and remove her anywhere

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

#29

Anyone who has the new model w/ Touch Bar can comment on the usefulness of it, now that it's been out for a while? Do you ever used it / still use it daily?

My work laptop has it, and I'm resoundingly neutral. I think it was a mistake not to give it a genuine hardware escape key, especially since there's dead space to the left of the actual display where you could actually put something like, I don't know, A HARDWARE ESCAPE KEY. But beyond that, I think the hate directed at it is way blown out of proportion. Maybe other writers/developers need actual physical function keys all the time and will go bananas without them, but I've found that in practice, I just don't. I'm a touch typist on the actual alphanumeric keyboard, but have never been able to hit media keys and function keys without looking down anyway, so I don't feel any substantial rage that I have to look down to use the volume or brightness slider. I kinda like the emoji bar, on the rare occasion I use emoji. It's kind of neat to get a terminal that has both option and meta available instead of either/or, and I admit I use the man page button when I remember it's a thing. And, of course, if I hold down FN, I get all my function keys back anyway -- which is how I've had things set with the hardware function key row for the last few years (other keys by default, FN to access F1-F12), so in practice, there's no significant change for me. (And you can set it so it displays F1-F12 by default and does the touch bar woo woo stuff when you hold down FN.)

Having said all that, I'm neutral because it hasn't sold me as being a "must have" feature that's worth the ~$200 premium. I bought a MacBook Pro earlier this year, post-Touch Bar, and bought one of the lower-end 13" ones with the actual function keys.

Re: Hacker News News Feed for the Mac Touch Bar

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post #28
post #18

The Touch Bar has revolutionized the way I accidentally invoke Siri once per 30 minute period.

You can remove Siri from the touch bar in the touchbar settings. While in the settings you can tap the bar to open the different configurations and remove her anywhere

If you ask Siri to disable, it gives you a weird "I'm sorry I can't do that" reply. Unlike a real person, there's no verbal abuse that will make her go away.
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