I'd like to know on what grounds?
Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
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Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
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>> this sounds very much like something the US will do. As an American this sounds very much like something many, many, many countries around the world would do.
Many, many countries are brutal, totalitarian dictatorships. Doesn't mean we have an excuse to sink to their level. I couldn't imagine this story coming from, say, Germany or Sweden.
Pretty sure Sweden has a certain Australian that, according to many on this site, they've been very unfair to.
Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
#63Why in heaven's name did he travel to the US?
DEFCON. I'm sure a lot of people wanted to see him there. What crime did he commit anyway? There was no reason for him to worry at all...
Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
#64Why in heaven's name did he travel to the US?
There is an annual security focused convention going on this week called "Defcon" that many security focused engineers typically attend. Since wannacry was a big thing that happened between this year's con and last year's con, and because Hutchins is a security researcher, I'm sure he was invited to attend if not give a talk.
Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
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>> this sounds very much like something the US will do. As an American this sounds very much like something many, many, many countries around the world would do.
Many, many countries are brutal, totalitarian dictatorships. Doesn't mean we have an excuse to sink to their level. I couldn't imagine this story coming from, say, Germany or Sweden.
Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
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>If no one knows where he is, it's more likely that it's what Marcus wants at the moment rather than what the FBI wants. Oh come on...
He could call his attorney have him release a statement right? Are you saying he is being denied access to a lawyer? Because that's a very serious charge and it would very silly of the FBI. IDK if I were arrested I would pray that the police abuse their power and deny me access to an attorney.
When the US government kidnaps non US-citizens they don't give you the chance to call your lawyer. You get stripped, beaten, sodomised and sedated. If you're lucky you get released after a few months of torture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri
>Khalid El-Masri (born June 29, 1963) is a German and Lebanese citizen who was mistakenly abducted by the Macedonian police in 2003, and handed over to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). While in CIA custody, he was flown to Afghanistan, where he was held at a black site and routinely interrogated, beaten, strip-searched, sodomized, and subjected to other cruel forms of inhumane and degrading treatment and torture. After El-Masri held hunger strikes, and was detained for four months in the "Salt Pit," the CIA finally admitted his arrest and torture were a mistake and released him
Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
#67They're surprisingly clever, to arrest after DefCon. Typical stupid USA LEOs would arrest ASAP, so the unjust detention could be a cause célèbre hyped up by half the talks.
Or maybe they wanted to see what he presents, who he meets there. Could be useful for prosecution.
Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
He could call his attorney have him release a statement right? Are you saying he is being denied access to a lawyer? Because that's a very serious charge and it would very silly of the FBI. IDK if I were arrested I would pray that the police abuse their power and deny me access to an attorney.
> He could call his attorney have him release a statement right? How many people traveling to the US from the UK, just to attend a conference, have an attorney they can call in the US?
What about your free public defender? Can't you tell him to make a statement or to contact someone?
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#70> "I've spoken to the US Marshals again and they say they have no record of Marcus being in the system. At this point we've been trying to get in contact with Marcus for 18 hours and nobody knows where he's been taken," the person added. "We still don't know why Marcus has been arrested and now we have no idea where in the US he's been taken to and we're extremely concerned for his welfare." What the hell? How does s…
> What the hell? How does something like this even happen? Surely they can't just take somebody away and keep it a secret? You absolutely can. [1] [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-poli...
"can" probably meant "can lawfully".