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Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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post #184

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So I have mixed feelings about this situation. On the one hand, if the sentences were for drug possession, yes, I think its really shitty to incarcerate people for that. But if their felony was due to burglary or something more serious/violent, I do think they deserve the punishment. I also agree that once the sentence has been served, people should not be punished any further, except where the occupation requires a…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/04/... The US has about 4.4 percent of the global population and about 22 percent of the global prison population. So either we are seriously fucking up as a country and incapable of producing decent human beings, or our entire justice system is broken. Something needs to be done differently at the systemic level that doesn't involved holding every individual f…

> The US has about 4.4 percent of the global population and about 22 percent of the global prison population. So either we are seriously fucking up as a country and incapable of producing decent human beings, or our entire justice system is broken.

Note that that's not an exclusive or; both can be true, and it's even plausible that there's a positive feedback loop between the two—that is, we have worse people because of our massive imprisonment, and can't get political support to end mass imprisonment because people correctly fear the near-term results given the way in which those in in prison are socialized (and even often preferring more imprisonment from perfectly legitimate fears of the way many people not in prison are socialized due to our mass imprisonment system.)

Which isn't to say we shouldn't bite the bullet and end the system, but just that we'll have lots of near term problems when we do and lots of political difficulty in actually doing it.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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You are so right on all your comments. Soon we'll be re-doing the entire site. Perhaps we can talk in several weeks?

I'd add that framing the hiring decision as charity ("giving someone a second chance") could be improved. I'd go for more of a "diamond in the rough" angle. "Find talent everyone else is missing."

Fantastic suggestions for these folks!

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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post #197

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/04/... The US has about 4.4 percent of the global population and about 22 percent of the global prison population. So either we are seriously fucking up as a country and incapable of producing decent human beings, or our entire justice system is broken. Something needs to be done differently at the systemic level that doesn't involved holding every individual f…

> The US has about 4.4 percent of the global population and about 22 percent of the global prison population. So either we are seriously fucking up as a country and incapable of producing decent human beings, or our entire justice system is broken. Note that that's not an exclusive or; both can be true, and it's even plausible that there's a positive feedback loop between the two—that is, we have worse people because…

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Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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See! You can read! Go find that library.

Heh, you changed it to "Digital Manager of Operations ". Much classier ;-)

More current, considering my job changed. I hadn't changed it in two years. Probably wouldn't have changed it for another few years if you hadn't reminded me that profile descriptions exist.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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ETHICAL ++ HACKER ++ FOR ++ HIRE: Need a hacker for general ethical hacks? specialized hacks, hack into email accounts(gmail, yahoo, aol etc.), gain access to various social networks (such as facebook, twitter, instagram, badoo etc.), specialized and experienced hacking into educational institutions, change of grades, clearing of criminal records, hack blogs, clear credit card debts, drop money into credit cards, smartphone hacks, hack into banks accounts in various countries etc. contact us via magicfinder217@gmail.com

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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post #189

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As someone who broke a whole lot of laws in his late teens and got off pretty easy for all of it, I wholeheartedly agree. They could have thrown the book at me but they didn't. Also, it helps if you don't confess to anything and hire a good attorney even if you end up taking a plea. Let's face it, America sucks in a ton of ways and the biggest crooks are bankers and people in finance--they stole billions and got away…

While I agree there are bigger crooks who go unpunished, the solution is not to let the smaller crooks go free, but to also catch the bigger ones. BTW just to be clear, I'm not advocating harsher punishment, just equal punishment.

The issue is not with the severity of punishment, it is with the continuity of punishment.

This is from G.K.Chesterton, around 1907, "The Perpetuation of Punishment":

https://books.google.it/books?id=QtWvMclbR9YC&pg=PA504H7CQ#v...

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Economics isn't a zero-sum game. People with better jobs spend more money to buy more products, including a lot of the products startups would very much like to sell. An ex-con working minimum wage isn't ordering Muchery, using Instacart, or taking Lyft rides. An ex-con working in frontend development very well might use those services. This generates economic activity across the entire chain, enriching everyone alon…

> Economics isn't a zero-sum game. People with better jobs spend more money to buy more products Nothing I said suggested otherwise.

> the overall earning that the set number of jobs would support wouldn't change

Claiming that there is a set number of jobs and the overall earning wouldn't change with more productive labor is suggesting a zero-sum game.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Just want to add support. One of my childhood friends has a felony from when he was an overly-rambunctious teenager that he still gets punished for - including being kicked off AirBnB - for something he stole more than 20 years ago. Despite this, he's a very successful leader in mental health services management. So many people deserve a chance to redeem themselves from being 'branded', yet are denied the exact oppor…

Unfortunately some states (eg: Texas) don't allow you to expunge a felony no matter how long ago it was. My sister-in-law's HS boyfriend was a criminal jerk and she got caught up and charged as an accessory for something stupid (theft IIRC). She fully admits she was rebelling by going after a bad-boy. She had a public defender who met with her once and told her to take the deal to get probation. Unfortunately the ple…

Arizona, too, and you’ll find that’s common in tough-on-crime red states. I can petition to have mine “set aside,” but it sticks. I’m fortunate enough to have a great career in the Valley, but it comes up all the time as the upthread comment pointed out.

We are looking into gubernatorial pardon (Arizona has a decent process) but not holding my breath.

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