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Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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post #159

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How is this off-topic? Do you mean "off message"?

HN doesn't usually get trolls, so they probably don't have a category for it. But you're welcome here if you can argue your point instead of throwing out one-liners.

I simply have a point of view that you happen to disagree with.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#172
post #155

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Your first statement there belies the fact that you know nothing about psychology. I'd suggest going to your local library and reading up on reward and punishment as it relates to behavioral design in a society.

It's always so exciting to have my knowledge of Psychology called into question by a "DevOps engineer" in Minneapolis.

I have a master's in psychology from Columbia, and I happen to agree that you're ignorant.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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post #143

State and federal governments do not get as much tax revenue either because these people are not earning at their full potential. So basically, it hurts everyone involved as well as society as a whole.

Is that true? I don't know much about macroeconomics but it seems to me that even though these folks aren't earning at their full potential, the jobs are being done by someone. In other words, if these folks were earning more, someone else wouldn't be doing that job, so the overall earning that the set number of jobs would support wouldn't change one way or the other from the tax revenue point of view. (Not advocatin…

This is fixed pie thinking and it's not a good way to look at the economy and jobs. If this large block of people were earning more, they would be spending more. That means more restaurant jobs, home builders, baby sitters, etc. It's not a perfect one to one that jobs will increase with spending, but it's closer to that than the fixed number of jobs view you are putting out.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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post #118
post #107

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The best way to stop people doing bad things they want to do is the fear of certain and severe punishment. "Getting involved" is not something that you do by "mistake", you have to want to do it first. The only "mistake" is believing you won't get caught, presumable because so few do.

I genuinely feel that that is not an ethical approach, nor is it any more effective than removing the temptation/ ability to commit certain crimes. In some cases, I agree, severe punishment needs to be codified into the law, but that represents a tiny minority of crimes committed in the US.

I think it's quite ethical, because it removes the burden from law-abiding people. There's also evidence to show that punishment works as a deterrent when applied as uniformly as possible, hence saving people from falling into the misery of criminality.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#177
post #127

The good thing about people with a criminal record: you know what they did! You will never know this of the people around you who got away not being caught. Do I know if my neighbour did not rob a bank 10 years ago? No. So working with ex-criminals can be an encounter with honesty.

Uh, you don't know what the ex-con hasn't been caught for either. Maybe they got away with murder 10 years ago, but where only caught for their petty theft 5 years later.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#178
post #134

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However did anybody work before the invention of the internal combustion engine? rolls eyes

However did the past become the present? rolls eyes Cities were structured so that people lived closer to work. On the farm, you lived and worked there. In cities, factories only employed people nearby because anyone farther away couldn't easily/affordably get to work. Unfortunately, with the spread of highways, suburbs, and cheap gas, American society rearranged itself around everyone having a car, so now having one…

Having an opinion which which you disagree is not "trolling".

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#179

Can you sort by criminal record? e.g. Only white collar crimes.

No, we believe everyone deserves a second chance. It's a challenging moral quandary, I admit, but I for one am no one to pass judgement.

What about cases such as people who commit crimes against children? Would at the very least you say they don't deserve a second chance at working with children?

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#180

There are pictures african-american people on frontpage, about and guiding principles. People MAY be offended. Just a suggestion.

What do you mean? The reality is that African-American people are incarcerated and convincted at very high rates, in great part thanks to policies that very specifically designed to target them (re: war on drugs).
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