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Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

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Post by justadeveloper2 »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #140
adventured wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is from 2002, but it makes the point: "... that almost a third of men [in Britain] have a criminal conviction by the age of 30, according to the Home Office. Research on men born in 1953 showed that about 30 per cent had clocked up a standard list offence - one that is dealt with by the courts but excludes minor motoring offences - by their thirtieth birthday. Research in Scotland points in the same direction, s…

Wow, and that was for people born in 1953(!!). The net cast by law enforcement has not gotten smaller since then.

It's easier to rule over people who live in fear, so just make more things illegal, process people through the system, and you get your total state without anyone raising an eyebrow.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#162

Post by [deleted] »

geofft wrote: post #146
adnam wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

However did anybody work before the invention of the internal combustion engine? rolls eyes

The internal combustion engine was invented in the 1860s or so. Do you know how the poorest demographic in America before the 1860s worked?

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Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#163

Post by bovermyer »

adnam wrote: post #155
bovermyer wrote: post #132

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Your first statement there belies the fact that you know nothing about psychology. I'd suggest going to your local library and reading up on reward and punishment as it relates to behavioral design in a society.

It's always so exciting to have my knowledge of Psychology called into question by a "DevOps engineer" in Minneapolis.

See! You can read! Go find that library.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#164

Post by KingMob »

adnam wrote: post #134
DanBC wrote: post #119

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leads to job loss. you want them to work, right?

However did anybody work before the invention of the internal combustion engine? rolls eyes

However did the past become the present? rolls eyes

Cities were structured so that people lived closer to work. On the farm, you lived and worked there. In cities, factories only employed people nearby because anyone farther away couldn't easily/affordably get to work.

Unfortunately, with the spread of highways, suburbs, and cheap gas, American society rearranged itself around everyone having a car, so now having one puts you at a disadvantage.

Please either contribute comments of substance or wit, and reserve the trolling for 4chan.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#165

Post by dang »

adnam wrote: post #159
dang wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14911995 and marked it off-topic.

How is this off-topic? Do you mean "off message"?

'Dissuading people from using drugs in the first place' is pretty far from the topic of a job board for felons. There's a connection, but it's a generic one. We've learned that generic tangents aren't good for discussion here.

This is standard HN moderation. When a subthread veers away from the original topic and also toward something more generic or ideological, we moderate the subthread as off topic. That caveat is important, since off-topic tangents can also be whimsical and sometimes more interesting than the original discussion. But on HN, 'generic' and 'interesting' are incompatible, and the generic stuff tends to take over the concrete if you let it (+10x when the material is flammable). Therefore we don't let it.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#166

Post by splintercell »

triangleman wrote: post #142

In a past job I was responsible for hiring a few warehouse workers, and in one case I was actually relieved to find that the applicant was on probation for a drug charge, and was required to submit to weekly urine tests. Basically the state was paying to guarantee that this worker was staying clean, and so I was pretty confident about hiring him. I wonder if other employers would be interested in that kind of info as…

Considering the number of friends who repeatedly and confidently pass state mandated drug tests, I would not trust that at all.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#167

Post by jjnoakes »

w8rbt wrote: post #143

State and federal governments do not get as much tax revenue either because these people are not earning at their full potential. So basically, it hurts everyone involved as well as society as a whole.

Is that true? I don't know much about macroeconomics but it seems to me that even though these folks aren't earning at their full potential, the jobs are being done by someone.

In other words, if these folks were earning more, someone else wouldn't be doing that job, so the overall earning that the set number of jobs would support wouldn't change one way or the other from the tax revenue point of view.

(Not advocating for or against these folks being able to work at their full potential, just trying to look at the tax revenue argument objectively).

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#168

Post by KingMob »

adnam wrote: post #159
dang wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14911995 and marked it off-topic.

How is this off-topic? Do you mean "off message"?

HN doesn't usually get trolls, so they probably don't have a category for it.

But you're welcome here if you can argue your point instead of throwing out one-liners.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#169

Post by adnam »

dang wrote: post #165
adnam wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this off-topic? Do you mean "off message"?

'Dissuading people from using drugs in the first place' is pretty far from the topic of a job board for felons. There's a connection, but it's a generic one. We've learned that generic tangents aren't good for discussion here. This is standard HN moderation. When a subthread veers away from the original topic and also toward something more generic or ideological , we moderate the subthread as off topic. That caveat i…

Thank you for the explanation. Since I have your attention momentarily, would it be possible to delete my entire HN history from the beginning of time? Posts and comments.

Re: Launch HN: 70MillionJobs (YC S17) – Job board for people with criminal records

#170

Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #165
adnam wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this off-topic? Do you mean "off message"?

'Dissuading people from using drugs in the first place' is pretty far from the topic of a job board for felons. There's a connection, but it's a generic one. We've learned that generic tangents aren't good for discussion here. This is standard HN moderation. When a subthread veers away from the original topic and also toward something more generic or ideological , we moderate the subthread as off topic. That caveat i…

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