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Algorithm That Makes Preschoolers Obsessed with YouTube

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Re: Algorithm That Makes Preschoolers Obsessed with YouTube

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Kids aged 2 and 3 should watch any content together with their parent. Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before. No 2 or 3 year old should be mindlessly browsing Youtube

I did, and now this is permanently burned into my brain: "Daddy finger, daddy finger, where are you? Here I am, here I am, how do you do?"

Note to self, don't spend quality time with children until they hit imprinting age, beyond dinner and reading at bedtime. ;p

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Kids aged 2 and 3 should watch any content together with their parent. Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before. No 2 or 3 year old should be mindlessly browsing Youtube

Yeah, but how many surprise egg videos does the average parent want to watch? The videos that most children like are of a very poor quality at which most adults would cringe. I've tried to redirect my children toward more high-quality children's programming. You know, stuff with scripts and budgets. Nonetheless, they want these toy porn videos produced by these toddler whisperers. As the article begins, children crav…

It's not really ad-free when the actual videos revolve around toy unboxing, is it?

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Kids aged 2 and 3 should watch any content together with their parent. Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before. No 2 or 3 year old should be mindlessly browsing Youtube

Have a look at Youtube Kids (https://kids.youtube.com/)

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Kids aged 2 and 3 should watch any content together with their parent. Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before. No 2 or 3 year old should be mindlessly browsing Youtube

As much as I agree, notice that it sort of defeats the point of it all if the they have to sit there with their child. It ain't easy being a parent, a 9 to 5 worker and a household manager within a 24h schedule. If parents leave their children to do some mindless thing while unnatended, it's often because they don't have enough time to give attention to all the stuff which is immediatelly pressing them.

> Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before.

In my experience, kids are willing to watch the same content many, many more times than an adult. This makes this strategy reasonable.

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Guess who they sell this awesome traffic to......I lost $1000 to this garbage. Every possible demographic option was enabled to prevent this from happening. Even better, foreign language learn your ABC's!

My kids were a little under 2 heading into election season. We watched very little television at that age but there was one YouTube show that would really help calm down one of them. Pretty much every time we watched that, we got a Trump ad. Yay living in Ohio!

Thankfully they've taken to some PBS shows like Daniel Tiger and Thomas, so they're usually content with that and we generally don't watch them on YouTube, so there isn't an recommended content. One time, I did put up a Thomas YouTube video on one screen with on of my sons in my lap, while I finished up 10 minutes worth of work on the other screen. That's how we got sucked into the "Bob the Train" vortex. Not good.

Re: Algorithm That Makes Preschoolers Obsessed with YouTube

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In the past couple of years there has been a huge uptick in YT content targeting very young children. The feedback loop is so tight that many of the creators have converged on designing some of the most visceral (and disturbing) material that appeals to kids at a reptilian level. Think about how genuinely weird little kids are. Sometimes they do stuff that would be scary if it wasn't just a minute of innocent pretend and a toy. Stuff like kidnapping each other or performing surgery on each other. Well, now there are hundreds of thousands of YT videos illustrating that kind of material in fine detail. Many of them have millions of views.

This site [1] has a good collection of screenshots of what I'm referring to. Unfortunately, it's such a heavyweight site that AdBlock is practically required just to open the page.

[1] https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/something-is-terribl... "Warning: This article contains disturbing images … although they’re all taken from children’s videos."

If your children are watching YouTube, make sure they are doing it only when and where you are able to see what they are watching.

Re: Algorithm That Makes Preschoolers Obsessed with YouTube

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Kids aged 2 and 3 should watch any content together with their parent. Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before. No 2 or 3 year old should be mindlessly browsing Youtube

I did, and now this is permanently burned into my brain: "Daddy finger, daddy finger, where are you? Here I am, here I am, how do you do?"

I agree with the article, this is basically anthem of "YouTube Kids".

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Kids aged 2 and 3 should watch any content together with their parent. Or at the very least, the content that parent watched and approved before. No 2 or 3 year old should be mindlessly browsing Youtube

Have a look at Youtube Kids ( https://kids.youtube.com/ )

Great tool for a parent. Make sure you have a look at AAP recommendations for screen time.

Re: Algorithm That Makes Preschoolers Obsessed with YouTube

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Guess who they sell this awesome traffic to......I lost $1000 to this garbage. Every possible demographic option was enabled to prevent this from happening. Even better, foreign language learn your ABC's!

My kids were a little under 2 heading into election season. We watched very little television at that age but there was one YouTube show that would really help calm down one of them. Pretty much every time we watched that, we got a Trump ad. Yay living in Ohio! Thankfully they've taken to some PBS shows like Daniel Tiger and Thomas, so they're usually content with that and we generally don't watch them on YouTube, so…

> Thankfully they've taken to some PBS shows like Daniel Tiger and Thomas

I recommend tracking down some old-school Mister Rogers' Neighborhood if you can. Totally engages my 4-year-old, and she actually talks to him when prompted, which she does with no other children's show. The pace is sedate and the shots long (like, really long, in a way I didn't appreciate as a kid—that had to be difficult to film).

They make Thomas and Daniel Tiger and most of the rest of the PBS lineup seem like Ren & Stimpy by comparison.

Re: Algorithm That Makes Preschoolers Obsessed with YouTube

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In the past couple of years there has been a huge uptick in YT content targeting very young children. The feedback loop is so tight that many of the creators have converged on designing some of the most visceral (and disturbing) material that appeals to kids at a reptilian level. Think about how genuinely weird little kids are. Sometimes they do stuff that would be scary if it wasn't just a minute of innocent pretend…

I noticed this myself watching my friends young cousin browse Youtube.. his feed was half clickbait 20-something white guys yelling at you to subscribe Minecraft videos, half perverted (such as Spiderman kissing Elsa from Frozen) or oddly gory children videos like the ones described in the article.

If I ever have kids, there's no way in hell I'm letting them run free with an iPad or iPhone. I know it's the "easy way out" to distract your kids at the dinner table, but I can't help but feel like it's bad for their mental development. Then again, I was part of the first generation that grew up with the modern internet and am decently well adjusted despite being exposed to weird content at a young age. Hm.

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