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Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by psyc »

idlewords wrote: post #16
zzalpha wrote: post #6

I'm genuinely unsure how I feel about this article. First, the internet itself is only in danger if net neutrality is genuinely threatened by ISPs. Until then, the network itself is as open as it ever was. As for the services on top, the meta-layer of products and infrastructure we rely on--social media, content sources, smartphones and smart devices, etc--there's a lot of reason to be concerned. But Amazon's markets…

Amazon's role in the oligopoly is running much of cloud computing. It comes down to this: - Google and Facebook capture all the value in online ads - Amazon, Google and Microsoft control the cloud - Apple and Google have a duopoly mobile OS - Apple and Microsoft dominate desktop OSs (sorry linux bro) - Facebook essentially controls online political advertising, and its founder is gearing up for a run at office Even i…

I'd say it's a bit of an optical illusion that we even think of Apple being in the same class as Microsoft for desktop OSs. Isn't it something roughly like 90/10 in Windows' favor?

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by mattferderer »

idlewords wrote: post #17
lkiernan wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm overlooking the easy "It's easy for me so it's easy for everyone" because I'm interested what phone you use?

He hewed it himself out of the finest hardwoods.

Everyone knows you use soft woods for phones.

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by Nerdfest »

jon-wood wrote: post #19
zzalpha wrote: post #6

I'm genuinely unsure how I feel about this article. First, the internet itself is only in danger if net neutrality is genuinely threatened by ISPs. Until then, the network itself is as open as it ever was. As for the services on top, the meta-layer of products and infrastructure we rely on--social media, content sources, smartphones and smart devices, etc--there's a lot of reason to be concerned. But Amazon's markets…

> Google is successful in a few areas ..., but they've proven incapable of pushing into other major areas (streaming services... Are we talking about the same Google here? The one that owns YouTube, which created an entire culture around video streaming online?

The writers seem to be solid Apple fans and exaggerate their influence. With billions in free marketing from every media site on the planet, Apple would be pretty much irrelevant already.

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by mattferderer »

kawfey wrote: post #7
mattferderer wrote: post #5

I honestly find it very easy to not use any of their services. They all have quality competitors.

The majority of humans don't find it so easy or necessary.

I agree. As stated in the article the best thing many of these companies do is make their product easier to use. If they actually wanted to use a different service though, do you think they would find it hard?

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by idlewords »

psyc wrote: post #21
idlewords wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon's role in the oligopoly is running much of cloud computing. It comes down to this: - Google and Facebook capture all the value in online ads - Amazon, Google and Microsoft control the cloud - Apple and Google have a duopoly mobile OS - Apple and Microsoft dominate desktop OSs (sorry linux bro) - Facebook essentially controls online political advertising, and its founder is gearing up for a run at office Even i…

I'd say it's a bit of an optical illusion that we even think of Apple being in the same class as Microsoft for desktop OSs. Isn't it something roughly like 90/10 in Windows' favor?

At least. But I include it because OS X is the only other "real" consumer OS on the market.

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by Nerdfest »

nickrio wrote: post #20
mattferderer wrote: post #5

I honestly find it very easy to not use any of their services. They all have quality competitors.

But, let's face it, we're surrounded by garden walls now days. Take phone as example: You almost only have two main options for a smart phone OS here: iOS (+ Apple) and Android (+ Google).

Android can be used without any connection to Google at all. You have a more limited choice of software (using F-Droid, etc), but it's quite easy to do.

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by idlewords »

Nerdfest wrote: post #23
jon-wood wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google is successful in a few areas ..., but they've proven incapable of pushing into other major areas (streaming services... Are we talking about the same Google here? The one that owns YouTube, which created an entire culture around video streaming online?

The writers seem to be solid Apple fans and exaggerate their influence. With billions in free marketing from every media site on the planet, Apple would be pretty much irrelevant already.

Apple is the most valuable company in the world.

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by eregorn »

Singletoned wrote: post #15
MBCook wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling Apple the genitals because they're a luxury brand? As soon as I saw that graphic I knew what quality of article I was in for.

Yeah, that was pretty tenuous. And assertion that women buy Apple products to deter "romantic rivals from poaching [their] relationship partner" seems almost ridiculous. I would say that iPhones and MacBooks are almost mass-market these days. Sure, they are more expensive than the alternatives, but they are so ubiquitous that can't really be considered status symbols anymore, can they?

I think it could be argued, though this article didn't seem to bother arguing it as much as it does for the other "pharaohs". Wasn't there an article here a few weeks ago about the green text bubbles?

Re: The war between Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple

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Post by johnsmith21006 »

idlewords wrote: post #16
zzalpha wrote: post #6

I'm genuinely unsure how I feel about this article. First, the internet itself is only in danger if net neutrality is genuinely threatened by ISPs. Until then, the network itself is as open as it ever was. As for the services on top, the meta-layer of products and infrastructure we rely on--social media, content sources, smartphones and smart devices, etc--there's a lot of reason to be concerned. But Amazon's markets…

Amazon's role in the oligopoly is running much of cloud computing. It comes down to this: - Google and Facebook capture all the value in online ads - Amazon, Google and Microsoft control the cloud - Apple and Google have a duopoly mobile OS - Apple and Microsoft dominate desktop OSs (sorry linux bro) - Facebook essentially controls online political advertising, and its founder is gearing up for a run at office Even i…

Actually Chromebooks have already passed the Mac in the US and growing at 38% YoY versus the Mac is flat.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/5/19/11711714/chromebooks-outs... Chromebooks outsold Macs for the first time in the US - The Verge

Heck we have.

http://9to5google.com/2016/06/20/chromebooks-taking-over-mac... At Apple CEO Tim Cook's old high school, they are selling their ...

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