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Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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When is the end of life for these features?

These Test Pilot experiments usually last for a few months, but there's no fixed end date, I don't think. It's mostly just a matter of having gathered enough feedback.

But well, if it seems like a feature that people want, then it gets included into Firefox itself and stays for longer.

Then, again, I for example can't at all imagine them including that file-sending mechanism. I doubt they even have the server capacity for that...

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I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

It's getting there. They recently added multiprocess support. A new CSS engine is coming. In the further future we're going to get more and more pieces of their new rendering engine in. Personally, I dropped Chrome 2 years ago or so, for the same reasons (moving away from everything Google that I reasonably can). Firefox is more painful to use, for sure, but it's gotten "okay" enough that I'm willing to keep using it…

Is there a way to figure out which addon or addons are the cause, without disabling them all and enabling them one by one?

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Some more information in the official blog post: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/01/new-test-pilot-expe... I was especially interested in the Voice Fill (speech recognition) technology. Landing page: https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/voice-fill It seems the project is here: https://github.com/mozilla/speaktome/ This seems as if it actually is a webservice. From the code ( https://github.com/mozilla/spea…

> Actually, I think this can be very easily done fully client-side, with good accuracy. Even on Android, the voice recognition can run client-side / offline.

I'm not sure I'd say it's easy; you will certainly trade off accuracy versus a state-of-the-art server model. Among other things, Firefox users are not going to download gigabytes of recognition model, so it'd have to be a lot smaller than the server ones would be.

Very possibly it will be slower too, since the servers would most likely be using GPUs for at least parts of the recognition, but it might not be easy to ensure the same on all the millions of PCs Firefox runs on.

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I find it hard to believe that speed is really the issue here. I suspect it's more likely it's the aggressive advertising scheme in which Google push for Chrome. I think these projects which Mozilla test/launch are an indication that even they don't know how to stop the eroding of Firefox market share. If I were Mozilla I'd be seriously worried about Electron.

Speed is definitely an issue on the mobile app. Personally I think Mozilla should try harder with the mobile market. Providing an ad and tracking blocking browser is still desirable on Android. Firefox is just too slow at the moment.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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It's getting there. They recently added multiprocess support. A new CSS engine is coming. In the further future we're going to get more and more pieces of their new rendering engine in. Personally, I dropped Chrome 2 years ago or so, for the same reasons (moving away from everything Google that I reasonably can). Firefox is more painful to use, for sure, but it's gotten "okay" enough that I'm willing to keep using it…

Is there a way to figure out which addon or addons are the cause, without disabling them all and enabling them one by one?

Yeah: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compat...

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Didn't they say not a few months ago that "the reason Firefox has fallen behind is that we focused on stuff that wasn't browser-related like MozillaOS etc."? Learning from own mistakes anyone?

Exactly.

I've been waiting for working and full printing support something like https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2015/01/designing-for-print... for years now. Printing articles from the browser is the same pain as 10 years ago.

But yes this is not as fancy as voice search or file sharing (or their single sign on, identity and all the other failed stuff).

Mozilla has been a vehicle for people who play out their tech and political dreams and then move on. And FF is crumbling all the way.

But this misery is soon over, we're in the end game of Firefox.

https://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

(Written from FF - a browser I've used since Mosaic)

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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post #147

I find it hard to believe that speed is really the issue here. I suspect it's more likely it's the aggressive advertising scheme in which Google push for Chrome. I think these projects which Mozilla test/launch are an indication that even they don't know how to stop the eroding of Firefox market share. If I were Mozilla I'd be seriously worried about Electron.

Speed is definitely an issue on the mobile app. Personally I think Mozilla should try harder with the mobile market. Providing an ad and tracking blocking browser is still desirable on Android. Firefox is just too slow at the moment.

Doesn't Firefox focus fill that gap? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/focus/

Super speedy as it uses an Android Webview and privacy focused.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Would you comment back here and gives your first impression on it? How fast is it compared to stable.

Not the OP, but I switched to Nightly a week ago and unlike stable I would recommend it to anyone. Not just to people who don't want to use anything Google. It's fast and doesn't hog memory. A far better experience than before.

Over the course of the next two weeks, they'll be merging some major UI overhauls, as well as remove swaths of legacy code, so things might be a bit rockier for some time and I wouldn't necessarily install it on my gramma's PC right in this moment, but other than that, yeah, it is pretty crazy how big the difference is, with Nightly being just three months ahead.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Try disabling HTTPS Everywhere, if you have it. It made everything many seconds slower for me.

You might as well open it's options and disable SSL Observatory since it's exactly what cause slowdown.

Hmm, interesting, that sounds plausible, thank you.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Some more information in the official blog post: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/01/new-test-pilot-expe... I was especially interested in the Voice Fill (speech recognition) technology. Landing page: https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/voice-fill It seems the project is here: https://github.com/mozilla/speaktome/ This seems as if it actually is a webservice. From the code ( https://github.com/mozilla/spea…

It's interesting if Mozilla is running their own speech recognition system. I wonder whether it would actually be usable in practice... The problem is, I couldn't find any kind of online demo.
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