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Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Yea I'm definitely going to try switching to Nightly based on the comments here. As well as adjusting some of the configuration. Thanks!

Would you comment back here and gives your first impression on it? How fast is it compared to stable.

Not the OP, but I switched to Nightly a week ago and unlike stable I would recommend it to anyone. Not just to people who don't want to use anything Google. It's fast and doesn't hog memory. A far better experience than before.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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post #76

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Yea I'm definitely going to try switching to Nightly based on the comments here. As well as adjusting some of the configuration. Thanks!

Would you comment back here and gives your first impression on it? How fast is it compared to stable.

I have Nightly in one machine (Linux) and the R55 in a Windows machine. It's way fast than the previous versions I used to have and looks definitely snappier than G. chrome. Don't have any benchmarks with me, purely based on perception/ felt response times.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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They actually did, the recent switch to multiprocessing made a massive difference. I've been happily using Vivaldi for a few months now, but I'm tempted to go back to FF as the speed gap has been wiped out of late - only cold startups are a bit slower, actual pageload is absolutely on par or better. This on Mac, at least, but I expect it will have been similar on other platforms.

Last time I tried it still was slow... I'll give it another try.

When was the last time you tried? R55 is way snappier than Chrome. Nightly is also fast.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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I wonder what happens to the previous Test Pilot experiments. I loved the experimental home page and the Tab Center [1]. I really hope it continues to live. [1] https://github.com/bwinton/TabCenter

If with experimental home page you're referring to Activity Stream [1], something similar cropped up in Firefox Nightly around a week ago.

Looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/nhGpHYt.png

Each section can be hidden individually, so if you just want the search box or just the websites you frequently visit or don't want stupid articles recommended on your newtab-page, those are all things you can do.

Seems like they took out the recent activity thing, but no idea if this is finalized already.

[1]: https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/activity-stream

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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I find it hard to believe that speed is really the issue here. I suspect it's more likely it's the aggressive advertising scheme in which Google push for Chrome.

I think these projects which Mozilla test/launch are an indication that even they don't know how to stop the eroding of Firefox market share.

If I were Mozilla I'd be seriously worried about Electron.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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I find it hard to believe that speed is really the issue here. I suspect it's more likely it's the aggressive advertising scheme in which Google push for Chrome. I think these projects which Mozilla test/launch are an indication that even they don't know how to stop the eroding of Firefox market share. If I were Mozilla I'd be seriously worried about Electron.

Isn't Electron based on Chromium? Also, why would they be worried about it?

Chrome cannot control, for example VS Code.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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But why? It's a browser. All it should do (and do well) is display content. I don't want a bunch of extra garbage tossed in because it sounds good on some marketing slide. Chrome has been and continues to eat FF's marketshare alive because it has been both faster and lighter. More junk is not going to help FF beat them.

> Chrome has been and continues to eat FF's marketshare alive because it has been both faster and lighter.

I believe Chrome got a larger market share also because it had the giant force of Google marketing it heavily on its properties for years, whereas Firefox only had some support of that sort from the Yahoo search deal (IIRC). More people land on Google's online properties than on Yahoo's.

I personally don't agree that Chrome is faster and lighter. For me (as a heavy multi-tab user) it has always been slow as molasses and a laggy browser.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Didn't they say not a few months ago that "the reason Firefox has fallen behind is that we focused on stuff that wasn't browser-related like MozillaOS etc."? Learning from own mistakes anyone?

Quoting from the article:

"These are obviously experimental tools and there’s no guarantee they will ever make it into a release version of Firefox. Indeed, the idea behind Test Pilot is to allow the Firefox team to test new concepts."

The efforts on making Firefox faster and more responsive have been going on for a few years (e10s/electrolysis being one of them) and are appearing in the releases as fast as the team can develop, test and deliver them. I personally believe Mozilla has a highly capable core team on this, and to insinuate otherwise, to me, seems like accepting commercial interests of other browser makers as higher than FLOSS interests. I don't disagree on quality of the product being a huge aspect in value judgments, but it cannot and should not be the only one.

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