That's too bad. The subvolume [0] features were an interesting paradigm. Kind of let you have a virtual filesystem-within-a-filesystem.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#Subvolumes_and_snapshots
Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
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Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
EPEL doesn't get security updates. Security support for a wide range of packages is also a reason to prefer Debian over Ubuntu, since most of the Debian-inherited packages ("universe") are excluded in Ubuntu.
EPEL gets security updates just like fedora does. Packages are usually maintained in the same gut repositories. However there is no guarantee that you will receive security updates as there is no support contract. But you have a similar problem in Debian if the maintainer isn't keeping up
Debian doesn't have this problem: the security team is collectively responsible for making security updates and frequently creates updated packages without maintainer involvement.
I'm not familiar with the Fedora process, but they seem to have a security team and a system of security advisories, which EPEL does not appear to have. Doesn't sound like the same at all.
Sure, most of the time packages in EPEL (and in Ubuntu universe section) will eventually get security updates, but there is no promise or organization of timely security updates.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#33Has anyone here tried bcachefs ( http://bcachefs.org/ ) for some of the same use cases as btrfs? What do people think of its current state?
I actually use bcachefs on my main data drive and so far it has been running solid for ~3months. That said, looks like the author has gone camping/moving/re-evaluating life. Hoping the development picks back up or that it gets rebased off of 4.12 (or maybe made into a set of kernel patches?). Wanted a COW fs - tried btrfs and kept running into issues where the drive would fall into ro mode so far not regretting bcachefs.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#34I know this says redhat.com, but title is still a bit misleading. Btrfs has been deprecated on RHEL, but it is still under active development on its own.
HN has a problem of users posting misleading titles.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#35I wonder if this is a response to Oracle's Java9/Jigsaw push, where RedHat was forced to give up its position.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
You'd need to read up on it but the TL;DR i got from previous comments was that previously it was being funded by a company that wasn't 100% aware of the entire situation around it (they used it in their commercial product, management didn't fully understand it was being released as open source, though I also understand they didn't own the rights to the entire code base so basically that was necessary effectively). T…
>I'd encourage you to research it further! On that note, their Patreon is a better primer than the website is: https://www.patreon.com/bcachefs
Happy to see his Patreon is looking "healthier". I mean $1500/m isn't really that much but I'm sure last I looked it was much lower.
In other news.. consider supporting the people that support you! Personally, I spent over $100/month on Patreon. Most of those are creators rather than open source people but there are a couple of open source ones such as Ondřej Surý who works on PHP packaging in Debian/Ubuntu
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a general rule if the end customer was finance/bank their Linux flavor was RedHat (someone to yell at when it broke). Other tech companies / web types it was Ubuntu. This was my experience in over 4 startups where these were are end customers. Your mileage may vary.
CentOS is extremely popular among startups. It lets you directly use RPMs, which many software publishers distribute on their own (not the case for debs, often), and gives you an upgrade path to buy RHEL when you want someone to yell at and not throw away all your automation. I’m not trying to start a flame war here (honest), but among most “usual web” ops folks I know, the opposite of what you’re suggesting seems to…
I'm also under the impression the government tends to use RHEL when using FOSS.
I could be wrong, but I picked that up years ago somewhere.
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#38I think this is a political move disguised as technical move
oracle pays the developers of btrfs [0]
redhat hates the guts of oracle, since oracle released oracle linux, which is a clone of redhat enterprise (based on centos)
so, redhat wants to cripple btrfs and hurt oracle.
However, btrfs is my favorite FS, been using it on my home computer and backup drives for at least 6 years, before it was included in the kernel, love the subvolumes, snapshots, and compression; never had issues with it .
[0] https://oss.oracle.com/~mason/
[Update] Chris mason no longer at Oracle since 2012
Re: Btrfs has been deprecated in RHEL
#39Wow, I thought their long term plan was to switch to Btrfs. Now it is deprecated? What happened there?
I think you might be confusing with SuSE?
Generally though sadly btrfs just isn't getting the man hours from any commercial sponsor it seems :(